Legacy of the Force: Exile Chat
With a special guest, author Aaron Allston
All timestamps Eastern.
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20:00 <Havac> The Looove Commander himself!
20:00 <The4dotelipsis> Wowser.
20:00 <dgxxx> Welcome Mr. Allston!
20:00 <McEwok> *Ewoks dance in celebration and greeting*
20:00 <Dunc> That was quick. :D
20:00 <AaronAllston> Howdy, Dunc. Howdy, all. (McEwok, I got your e-mail. Will reply soon. <g>)
20:00 <Havac> He's right on time.
20:00 <starlit> Hey, Mr. Allston!
20:00 <Charlemagne19> Aaron Allston? Dammit! I was told Lieutenant Kettch would show up!
20:00 <Charlemagne19> Welcome sir.
20:00 <Horsey> sorry about that Charles
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20:01 <McEwok> <g>
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20:01 <dgxxx> so i guess the chat is on!
20:01 <starlit> w00t!
20:01 <Charlemagne19> In lieu of our special guest, I hope we can keep the chatter to a reasonable level as a recommendation.
20:01 <AaronAllston> Chat? I misread. I thought it was going to be a _chant_. Oops.
20:01 <Dunc> First topic.... The Loooovvve Commander?
20:02 * Havac changes topic to 'The Loooooove Commander.'
20:02 <starlit> Haha, yes. So Lando!
20:02 <AaronAllston> Heh. Looooove Commander is turning out to be very popular...
20:02 <Havac> I loved Lando in the book.
20:02 <Charlemagne19> I must confess that you can take Lando out of the seventies but....
20:02 <Dunc> Lando IS the 70's.
20:02 <starlit> Darn tootin'.
20:02 <AaronAllston> Lando was fun to write in this one.
20:02 <Horsey> Lando's cane is awesome! What else does it do?
20:03 <Havac> I have to say, Lando's first scene was the first time that it really hit me just how old the characters are getting.
20:03 <Dunc> Can it tap a keg?
20:03 <Charlemagne19> I'm surprised his marriage to Tendra lasted this long with his Rick James attire.
20:03 <AaronAllston> Horsey: I don't know yet... Maybe we'll find out next time.
20:03 <Havac> I loved it. I totally felt how old the characters were from there on.
20:03 <Charlemagne19> No kids for Calrissian. I can't say I'm too surprised but he's the first main that didn't procreate.
20:03 <Dunc> I was suprised at that.
20:03 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: Well, who knows. Maybe they have an open marrige.
20:04 <Havac> It really brought closure to the character for me. If we never see him again, he could go out on the strength of that scene.
20:04 <Horsey> loved the classic interactions between Lando, Han, and Leia
20:04 <Charlemagne19> You give my Lando fandom hope Aaron.
20:04 <starlit> Yeah, they really seem...old.
20:04 <dgxxx> maybe in a few years we will see some missing lando´s children
20:04 <Dunc> But I'm kind of glad Ben won't have his own posse of former protaganist kids to hang out with.
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20:04 <Charlemagne19> Belinda Kalinda, one of Lando's wild oats? Who can tell.
20:04 <McEwok> Hey, sabs
20:04 <BobQ> I can't imagine Lando not having children. But I can easily imagine his not knowing about any...
20:05 <starlit> haha
20:05 <AaronAllston> Starlit: Well, they don't seem that old to me, since I'm 46 myself.
20:05 <dgxxx> thats right BobQ
20:05 <Charlemagne19> Hey Hey, Lando is a classy guy. He knows about protection.
20:05 <Dunc> Yeah, everyone expects some kid of Luke's to pop up out of nowhere... Why not Lando instead?
20:05 <starlit> they seem old considering how they're still kicking but and taking names :P
20:05 <Havac> I don't know if it's so much that they're old as that they're feeling their age.
20:05 <Dunc> Honestly, the age thing is a nonissue for me.
20:05 <McEwok> Jaded.
20:05 <Dunc> It's fantasy.
20:06 <AaronAllston> Well, remember, in the EU, 60 is the new 40.
20:06 <Charlemagne19> I'd like to comment that the biggest issue is that all of the 'Old timers' have fought to make a better galaxy for their descendents and yet now the problem is their descendents.
20:06 <starlit> Haha
20:06 <BobQ> Take a look at Mark Harmon on NCIS. Kicking butt and taking names is not the exclusive domain of the young.
20:06 <dgxxx> haha
20:06 <Dunc> Charles: Irony!
20:06 <Horsey> I love Mark Harmon
20:06 <Charlemagne19> Lando brought home the fact that they were still a family though.
20:06 <McEwok> Lando's the only non-Jedi.
20:06 <McEwok> Smart guy.
20:06 <Horsey> Booster
20:06 <dgxxx> and Han?
20:06 <McEwok> Jedi-in-law
20:07 <Charlemagne19> Han is an honorary Jedi
20:07 <starlit> Han is a Jedi by extension
20:07 <dgxxx> oh , thats new to me :P
20:07 <AaronAllston> McEwok: There's Wedge.
20:07 <Charlemagne19> Okay, may I suggest a new topic since Lando's pimped out right has moved on. Wedge Antilles and Corellia.
20:07 <Havac> Seeing those characters all get together into the Convoy of Awesomeness was awesome. I loved the spaceport escape.
20:07 <McEwok> He's Obi-Wan's uncle.
20:07 <McEwok> But, point.
20:07 <borracho> jajaja!
20:07 <Dunc> How about the Solo/Walkers bonding back together?
20:08 <Havac> It felt natural.
20:08 <Horsey> It was about time
20:08 <starlit> pretty cool...like the little mention of the Luke/Leia hug
20:08 <Charlemagne19> If by natural, you mean that they met together when people were trying to kill both.
20:08 <Charlemagne19> :-)
20:08 <Havac> Han's realized that Corellia isn't what he thought it was.
20:08 <starlit> to me, it seems like they don't spend much time together
20:08 <AaronAllston> That was a tricky sequence. I wanted to suggest family strength and unity without gettin all gooey about it.
20:08 <dgxxx> Wedge made the right decision of resing
20:08 * Dunc changes topic to 'We are family.'
20:08 <starlit> but then, I guess they both have families...
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20:08 <Charlemagne19> You did well.
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20:09 <Dunc> I agree. Goo gives me itchies.
20:09 <McEwok> Was Wedge's expulsion deliberate foreshadowing of Phennir's appearance, given the antipathy?
20:09 <starlit> I def. appreciate the lack of the mushy gushy in SW.
20:09 <LtNOWIS> Wow, I totally forgot about the chat today.
20:09 <Havac> Wedge made the right decision, but I'd have liked to see the whole "Good guy inside the Corellian government" angle played out more.
20:09 <Charlemagne19> I do think that Wedge Antilles and Han both getting fired shows just what a cesspool that Corellia is at heart. Sal Solo is dead and I actually think that it has LOST moral credibility since then.
20:09 <AaronAllston> I really hated the movie Polergiest II with its family uber alles approach. Ewwww.
20:09 <Charlemagne19> Kudos to Aaron for bringing back Soontir's version of Starscream!
20:09 <Charlemagne19> He's such an Imperial Imperial.
20:09 <borracho> gagaga!
20:09 <Dunc> Sal Solo? Moral credibitly?
20:10 <AaronAllston> MeEwok: No, not foreshadowing. Just a realistic consequence of the Hapes attack.
20:10 <Charlemagne19> Yes, Sal Solo's regime had Han Solo and Wedge Antilles.
20:10 <Charlemagne19> It balances out in Corellia's favor.
20:10 <Dunc> Still... Sal Solo. :P
20:10 <McEwok> You knew where you stood with Thrackan.
20:10 <McEwok> *HE* knew where he stood.
20:10 <Dunc> Not high in moral fiber.
20:10 <McEwok> No illusions about being on the right side.
20:10 <Havac> Aaron, can you say anythign about Garm Bel Iblis? Is he out of the picture entirely?
20:10 <dgxxx> Wedge wants to end with the Corellian current regime?
20:11 <Charlemagne19> Saddam Solo was scum but he was honest about his evil. No attempt to hide behind independence's morality. They'd do whatever it took. It's weird that I already miss that.
20:11 <AaronAllston> Well, Sal Solo was a strongman. There was less Sunni/Shiite violence when Saddam Hussein was in charge. But moral credibility?
20:11 <McEwok> It's like democracy?
20:11 <McEwok> Least worst option?
20:11 <McEwok> :-P
20:11 <Horsey> I think the important thing is that the threat for greater violence was removed
20:11 <Havac> I think Charles means that Thrackan had good people working for him.
20:12 <Havac> Gejjen doesn't anymore.
20:12 <Charlemagne19> Speaking of Democracy, to verge back to Betrayal for a second, how the hell DID Sal Solo get elected PM again?
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20:12 <AaronAllston> Havac: I don't know for sure, but I suspect so. I don't know of any plans to use him in LotF.
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20:12 <Charlemagne19> He and Borsk Feylya have the greatest public relations executives in the world.
20:12 <Havac> So he never really came up in discussions, then?
20:12 <Dunc> How did Fey;leya?
20:12 <Charlemagne19> I assume that someone hid the Senate ballot box for the Bothan.
20:12 <Havac> Too bad. He'd have to be dead to sit this out.
20:12 <Dunc> Gah. I can't spell any of Zahn's names.
20:12 <Charlemagne19> Some chads were hanging in the Florida Sector.
20:12 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: I don't recall. Really.
20:12 <Charlemagne19> Problems in Chicago with Black Sun.
20:12 <Dunc> hee
20:13 <McEwok> Garm could be in internment in the Alliance.
20:13 <djreed> What is a chud, anyway?
20:13 <starlit> So this whole, "never physical" thing with Luke and Lumiya...
20:13 <McEwok> Like Wedge, only not so spry.
20:13 <Dunc> The crew of the Executor was voting for the Bothan. ;)
20:13 <Charlemagne19> Didn't in the Clone Wars Garm Bel Iblis make Corellia neutral and independent?
20:13 <Charlemagne19> Arguably, he's responsible for this whole disaster.
20:13 <Havac> Yes he did.
20:13 <LtNOWIS> Well, he sat out of the war
20:13 <Dunc> Hmm. Interesting.
20:13 <Havac> I pity whoever has him locked up, then.
20:14 <Charlemagne19> Well according to Holonet news, Grevious invaded Corellia anyway but we never got to see that sadly
20:14 <AaronAllston> Starlit: Yeah, I mysef suspected that Luke and Lumiya had been more than specifically platonic, but I was informed that they weren't.
20:14 <dgxxx> that "hand shake" between Luke and Lumiya , why it happend?
20:14 <Charlemagne19> Well we know what you REALLY think Aaron.
20:14 <starlit> ha
20:14 <starlit> I want to see a lovechild, I admit...it could be a Skywalker tradition!
20:15 <AaronAllston> dgxxx: It happened because Lumiya wanted to express something to Luke. What, exactly, he's not sure.
20:15 <Charlemagne19> Another Wedge thing, Aaron, I congradulate you that you had SOMEONE point out to Jacen that he used to be a lovable Hippie Jedi. The fact you used the book's overall lack of humor to contrast the Old EU from the new was good.
20:15 <McEwok> It's more of a Solo tradition, really...
20:15 <Charlemagne19> Also a good retcon that Voxyn ruined his love of animals.
20:15 <LtNOWIS> yeah
20:15 <AaronAllston> Thanks, Charlemagne.
20:15 * Dunc changes topic to 'Jacen Solo, The Sith Who Lived.'
20:15 <Charlemagne19> It reminded me oddly of the "Riddler's lament" from the Batman comics. Where the guy comments how everyone has become a murderer when they used to just be thieves.
20:16 <borracho> if you want coffee
20:16 <dgxxx> for a minute i thought EVERYONE will be united against the confederation security guys
20:16 <Horsey> and Wedge used a Janson quote to do it!! **love**
20:16 <starlit> I liked your Jacen POV. It actually made some sense of what was going on in the guy's head
20:16 <Charlemagne19> I wonder if Janson ever got married. Was it Janson or Hobbie who had the crush on the Sword girl in Starfighters of Adumar?
20:17 <AaronAllston> Starlit: Yeah, it's creepily easy for me to fall into Jacen's mind-set.
20:17 <starlit> well, someone has to do it :P
20:17 <McEwok> Jacen is *very* human - thanks for that.
20:17 <Charlemagne19> I like to think that he really hates his parents because he recognizes they are the only people who see through his nerf shavit.
20:17 <Horsey> The sword girl had a crush on Wedge
20:17 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: I don't recall. Janson has a crush on anything good-looking and female, though, which Cheriss was.
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20:18 <Charlemagne19> Janson is a man of standards.
20:18 <Charlemagne19> Honestly, I have to wonder what Jacen possibly could have done to earn such loyalty from Ben.
20:18 <McEwok> Brainwashed him?
20:18 <Horsey> taught him how to hide in the force?
20:18 <Havac> He's understood him and treated him like an adult.
20:19 <Dunc> I LOVED Ben.
20:19 <LosDosMos> Been a cool older person that befriended him and hung out with him when he didn't have to?
20:19 <AaronAllston> Hero worship is pretty pernicious, Charlemagne. I think I put some cracks in it in Exile, though.
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20:19 <Charlemagne19> Gave him a nifty Gestapo uniform?
20:19 <McEwok> Dunc: 2nd'd
20:19 <Aragorn327> ...seeing as he's often used memories wipes to change Ben's mind to suit his purposes, the loyalty to Jacen doesn't surprise me.
20:19 <Dunc> Made him feel important.
20:19 <starlit> Ben is strange, but understandable.
20:19 <Dunc> And believe he could be more than Luke Skywalker's kid
20:19 <dgxxx> Shaker was good too :P
20:19 <Charlemagne19> Jacen Himmler is pretty powerful for a Colonel. The GFFA must use the Libyan definition of Colonel.
20:19 <Horsey> you put lots of cracks in it and I loved it
20:20 * Dunc changes topic to 'Jacen and Ben.'
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20:20 <Charlemagne19> Speaking of Ben, I have to be the one who asks. Ben was influenced by Ziost and doesn't normally consider eating little girls right?
20:20 <starlit> I liked the bit where the guy basically said, "You're Luke Skywalker's kid, so of course you'll save my kid!"
20:20 <Dunc> I think it's clearly Ziost.
20:20 <McEwok> Cherles: there's an Ewok Sith on Ziost.
20:20 <dgxxx> Jacen let Lumiya plans the test for Ben , so Jacen wants Ben to be his aprentice at all cost?
20:20 <AaronAllston> Starlit: Yeah, I think the effects of celebrity on these characters needs to be explored more.
20:20 * Dunc sighs.
20:21 <Dunc> No McEwok. Ewoks don't eat people; people eat Ewoks.
20:21 <Charlemagne19> Yeah, the contrast between Betrayal Ben and Ben in Exile is tremendous sadly. I wish that Aaron had just stuck with Happy Ben but that wouldn't have been honest to what came before.
20:21 <McEwok> Tell that to the 501st
20:21 <starlit> Yeah, it's a little too normal of a situation for SW, but it's still interesting for character depth
20:21 <Dunc> That's one think I like about LOTF - the celebrity thing.
20:21 <Charlemagne19> The 501st was filled with meat and treasure, of course the Ewoks ate them.
20:21 <AaronAllston> dgxxx: Not at all costs, certainly. Allana is more important to him.
20:21 <dgxxx> well Jacen is trusting TOO much in Lumiya
20:22 <Graysaber> I don't know the celebrity thing seems overdone to me
20:22 <Charlemagne19> So he says Aaron. You're an author but I think Jacen is deluding himself that he has a line he won't cross. He barely knows his daughter.
20:22 <Horsey> Does Jacen know Lumiya tried to kill Ben? (or did I interpret that wrong)
20:22 <LtNOWIS> I don't think he does.
20:22 <Charlemagne19> I think Jacen knows but doesn't care Horsey.
20:22 <Havac> He doesn't need to know her to love her, Charles.
20:22 <Charlemagne19> Jacen tried to kill Ben too.
20:22 <Dunc> Yes, he's 'testing'
20:22 <Dunc> :P
20:23 <AaronAllston> Horsey: No, he doesn't.
20:23 <McEwok> Charles: no, but you could argue that he *imagines* her - and he knows her in the Force.
20:23 <Charlemagne19> Havac, I don't think Jacen knows what love is anymore. Love is whatever agrees with Mein Force.
20:23 <Havac> He loves her because he doesn't know her. He idolizes her.
20:23 <McEwok> Allana is important to Jacen's metaphysics - his anchor, his star.
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20:23 <Havac> She's an idea as much as a person to him.
20:23 <dgxxx> i hope Allana will play a mayor part in Jacen´s Sith live
20:23 <Charlemagne19> I stand corrected AA.
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20:23 <jello> Good afternoon everyone.
20:23 <Dunc> whoops. Sorry Jello.
20:23 <Horsey> sorry
20:23 <dgxxx> Hello Jello
20:24 <Dunc> We had our streams crossed.
20:24 <Charlemagne19> yeah, which is why I think if Tenel Ka ever confronted Jacen about his evil. He'd turn on her in a second. The only thing protecting Allana is she's too small to have an opinion.
20:24 <Charlemagne19> But that's a bit off Exile I think.
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20:24 <dgxxx> ur right Charle
20:24 <jello> What was that, anyway?
20:24 <dgxxx> oh Aaron good one on "Brix" :P
20:24 <Dunc> The room is moderate - if you don't have voice (+v) you can't 'speak'.
20:24 <Dunc> moderated
20:25 <Charlemagne19> BTW, I like that Jacen got owned by Turr. It's nice to see the Admiral's cunning is smarter than Jacen THINKS he is.
20:25 <AaronAllston> I apologize if I miss any questions. I'm still recovering from eye surgery in December.
20:25 <Charlemagne19> It's okay Aaron.
20:25 <AaronAllston> dgxxxx: Which one on Brix?
20:25 <jello> Got it. I think I'm going to depart, actually, and come back using Chatzilla. The web client is too slow.
20:25 <dgxxx> " what the brix is going on?" Han Solo , or i mispell it?
20:26 <Horsey> AA could you tell us who else is on the Jedi Counsel? (other than the ones you mentioned)
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20:26 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: Yeah, Jacen's effective, but he's not the only one. And with Phennir in charge of the Confederacy, I get to present him in a role that isn't antagonistic to all the good guys.
20:26 <Havac> Oh, yeah.
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20:26 <Havac> The Jedi Council: is it just those six? Chee seems to think there are just six, but there were twelve in Dark Nest.
20:27 <AaronAllston> Horsey: Not off the top of my head. I think a slightly different set convenes in Tempest, though.
20:27 <Havac> Or are they just the six who were there.
20:27 <Charlemagne19> BTW, Aaron, did you deliberately make Ben very powerful in the Force (tossing that HUGGGEEE rock) while making his lightsaber skills mediocore? Or is Ben catching up on his lightsaber forms?
20:28 <Bootlegvader> Can we ask any question or are we set to certain topics?
20:28 <AaronAllston> Charlemagn: That rock wasn't that big. We're not talking something the size of a starfighter -- more like something the size of a half dozen shoeboxes. But, yes, he's more powerful than he is skilled at this point.
20:28 <Horsey> oh ok...so there are other Masters they were just away on missions or something at the time
20:28 <Dunc> Bootleg: We're being informal, letting one thing leasd to another
20:28 <AaronAllston> Bootlegvader: You can ask anything. I can ignore anything. <g>
20:29 <dgxxx> Aaron how is your next book going?
20:29 <dgxxx> is it Fury?
20:29 <Charlemagne19> As powerful as a Jedi Knight or not? Ben is a Skywalker with 4 years under his belt.
20:29 <AaronAllston> dgxxx: The writing is coming along well, but eyestrain related to my surgery is slowing it down. So I'm happy with the results, just not the speed so much.
20:29 <AaronAllston> Yes, Fury.
20:30 <Charlemagne19> Understood Aaron.
20:30 <Horsey> Good luck getting well
20:30 <dgxxx> ok! i hope you can recover well!
20:30 <Charlemagne19> Our best wishes.
20:30 <borracho> and darth vader, is really dead?
20:30 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: I think he's as powrful as some beginning Knights, yes.
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20:30 <AaronAllston> Thanks, Horsey.
20:30 <AaronAllston> Thanks, everybody.
20:30 <Bootlegvader> Aaron, I was wondering if you read or knew anything about lumyia before you started working on LOTF, as I really like how you write her.
20:31 <Charlemagne19> Is it a special Sith Starfighter that Ben stole or just a regular Sith fighter?
20:31 <AaronAllston> Borracho: Gee, I hope so...
20:31 <Horsey> lol
20:31 <dgxxx> hahaha
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20:32 <AaronAllston> Bootleg: I read some of the Marvel issues back in the day, but had to do a crash course in Lumiya as I was gearing up for Betrayal, and then had to extrapolate her personality and changes across decades. A lot of work. I'm glad you like the results.
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20:32 <McEwok> *enthusiastic nod*
20:32 <Charlemagne19> I got the impression Lumiya intended to study until she was better than Luke Skywalker then 40 years later said "Aw screw it."
20:32 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: It's a Sith Meditation Sphere. A variant type. One (at least) has appeared in Dark Horse.
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20:32 <Jello> Much better. Hello again, all.
20:32 <LtNOWIS> Hey Jello
20:33 <McEwok> Was it deliberate that there was no clear hint of Lumiya's actual POV on the war?
20:33 <Kyptastic> Cool
20:33 <dgxxx> that Sith Sphere was causin the voices?
20:33 <Charlemagne19> Dum Dum Dum. Impressive.
20:33 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: She has certainly trained herself to _fight_ Luke. She's now fought him to a standstill twice, chiefly, I think, because she's optimized against him -- she's still not as strong as he is.
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20:34 <Horsey> Charles copy and paste that to the SOS thread for Windy
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20:34 <Dunc> (Log in, Roh!)
20:34 <AaronAllston> McEwok: Pretty much. Also a hint that the outcome of the war is of little ihterest to her -- only what it does to, and for, Jacen and others.
20:34 <McEwok> Thanks!
20:35 <Charlemagne19> Is Turr Phenirr an Imperial expatriate or is he from Fondor or Corellia? Odd question, I know.
20:35 <AaronAllston> dgxxx: No, the voices are residual Sith evil and energies across the planet. Ziost is not a nice place.
20:35 <Rohniss> (hell I got demoted)
20:35 <Graysaber> Aaron: It seems to me that you write the skywalker family better, do you like to write them better/
20:35 <Graysaber> Aaron: It seems to me that you write the skywalker family better, do you like to write them better?
20:35 <dgxxx> ok thanks!
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20:35 <Charlemagne19> It seems he just joined up because he hates the Republic.
20:35 <Graysaber> soory
20:35 <Graysaber> sorry
20:36 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: He may not even have been an expatriate until he was hired by the Confeds. His planet of origin has never been established. (I asked Mike about that.)
20:36 <McEwok> Graysaber: you have lag. wait a few moments and your comments will appear.
20:36 <Graysaber> I know sorry bout that
20:36 <AaronAllston> Graysaber: I'm not sure who I write better. I suspect that varies with the reader. I write any character better once I've got a handle on him/her, which I finally did for Luke, during the NJO.
20:37 <Havac> So he was hired? Literally hired by the Confederation? Interesting.
20:37 <dgxxx> ehmm I guess we wont see more Shaker action ,right?
20:37 <Jello> It makes him seem almost mercenary.
20:37 <Charlemagne19> I guess promotion to Grand Admiral was a step up from being a Starfighter General.
20:37 <Bootlegvader> Aaron, do you get vote on the Darth Who poll, and which one do you like best?
20:37 <AaronAllston> Havac: That's shorthand on my part, not to be taken that literally.
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20:37 <Havac> OK.
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20:37 <Jello> He's called a grand admiral? (clearly, I haven't read much yet)
20:38 <AaronAllston> dgxxx: Depends on what Karen and/or Troy do with him. If he's still around during Inferno, I may return to him.
20:38 <Charlemagne19> No, Jello. Just shorthand for Supreme Commander of the Confeds.
20:38 <Jello> okay
20:38 <Jello> thanks
20:38 <Havac> So I guess the question is if he defected from the Empire to join, or if he wasn't in their service.
20:38 <dgxxx> that would be great Aaron!
20:38 <starlit> I have to second the other question...thoughts/comments on the Darth Who poll?
20:39 <AaronAllston> Bootleg: I got a vote, but my favorite names didn't make it to the final round. (No, I won't say what they were, <g>.)
20:39 <Horsey> awww
20:39 <starlit> That's never a good sign...
20:39 <dgxxx> Darth Shaker :)
20:39 <Charlemagne19> Soooooo Jag Fel, is he actually the impoverished loser that he appears to be? Odd question.
20:39 <Charlemagne19> Darth Kettch!
20:39 <Graysaber> I'd think an authors vote would be like ours times 100
20:40 <AaronAllston> Havac: He was not in their service. He probably didn't defect. However, the Empire might choose to expel him if they don't like his choice.
20:40 <Charlemagne19> Jacen Solo must find the Sith Lord who lives in the air ducts!
20:40 <LtNOWIS> Is Supreme Confed. Commander a different position from head of Corellian forces? Is Delpin still the Corellian Supreme Commander?
20:40 <Havac> Ahh. Thanks, Aaron.
20:40 <Rohniss> Aaron: Sorry if this has been addressed, whois your favorite character to write, and how come, or who is the most challenging
20:40 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: He is impoverished. And he has lost almost everything. But I don't class him as a loser. Just as a ronin.
20:40 <McEwok> Are there any cameos here like there were in Betrayal (Shalla, Myn, Lara, Kolot); I wonder about the Twi'lek on the .Venture. and the blonde serving girl/infiltrator at Gillater... or am I wildly off-beam...
20:41 <Havac> It was a lost opportunity not to have Myn get Wedge offplanet.
20:41 <AaronAllston> Nowis: Yes, they're different. Phennir coordinates the military of all systems belonging to the Confeds. Delpin is in charge of the Corellian forces.
20:41 <Jello> Aaron, I have to ask. Was 'Darth Retardo' one of your favorites? You can tell us that much, I'm sure.
20:41 <LtNOWIS> gotcha
20:42 <Charlemagne19> No, no that's insulting to the challenged.
20:42 <Havac> "Ronin". I love it. That's perfect for Jag.
20:42 <Jello> Yes, yes yes.
20:42 <Bootlegvader> What do you like best Jag/Jaina, Zekk/Jaina, or Jag/Zekk? : P
20:42 <Jello> And it's not to be taken seriously.
20:42 <AaronAllston> Rohniss: Janson for fun, Wedge for questions of conscience, Luke for the real Star Wars tone.
20:42 <Kyptastic> I really have to get round to finding this and reading it
20:42 <McEwok> *nods* rereading SoA after _Exile_, I really noticed Wedge's conscience.
20:42 <AaronAllston> McEwok: I don't think I did much with cameos this time.
20:42 <Havac> Yeah, that would help, Kyp.
20:43 <Charlemagne19> And to kill or inflame fanboy/girl sentiment, as far as Jag is concerned.....its over with him and Jaina right?
20:43 <Kyptastic> I don't think it's been released here though...
20:43 <AaronAllston> Jello: Darth Retardo was certainly fun at Dragon*Con, but, eh, not for serious consideration, no.
20:43 <Jello> thank you
20:44 <Jello> Wedge is a profoundly interesting character. He's very often guided by his moral compass--we see that in Mr. Stackpole's books too.
20:44 <dgxxx> Aaron what do you think the sword of the Jedi means?
20:44 <Jello> Like during the Thyferra business.
20:44 <Horsey> AA from the fangirl part of me, thanks for using Corran more.
20:44 <Havac> Wedge very much does what he feels is right, of course.
20:44 <AaronAllston> Bootleg: I actually like Jaina/Jag best. Because they're such an imperfect fit, unstoppable force vs. unmoveable object, they challenge each other more and make one another cooler.
20:44 <Charlemagne19> Myn Donos should be brought out of retirement. Have him snipe the entirety of the Confederation government
20:45 <Havac> Myn coming into the war would kick ass.
20:45 <Jello> That's not a very nice thing to do.
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20:45 <starlit> well, I have to go now...later all, and thanks for answering my questions, Aaron! :D
20:45 <AaronAllston> dgxxx: Can't answer that one, sorry.
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20:45 <Havac> Bye, Starlit.
20:45 <dgxxx> bye Starlit
20:45 <Havac> Ouch. Too late.
20:45 <AaronAllston> Horsey: You're welcome.
20:45 <dgxxx> ok dont worry :)
20:46 <Jello> Here am I playing the mouthpiece role again. Aaron: The D*C people want to know about Hobbie.
20:46 <Charlemagne19> Hobbie for Supreme Chancellor!
20:46 <Graysaber> Aaron: Do you plan these novels with Denning and traviss or are you more independent in that respect?
20:46 <dgxxx> i was here asking all the question but i missed to congratulate Aaron for the book! it was really cool!
20:46 <Havac> Hobbie is the most forgotten of the Flying Four.
20:46 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: Well, the problem is that if I bring characters back just because I like them, it becomes an exercise in self-indulgence. Fans will squee, but the novels will be the worse for it.
20:46 <Horsey> no no Janson would be a much better Sumpreme Chancellor
20:47 <Dunc> "Fans will squee, but the novels will be the worse for it." I love that. So true.
20:47 <Horsey> someone needs to sig that
20:47 <Jello> It still happens sometimes, though. Sadly.
20:47 <LosDosMos> Dunc needs to icon that
20:47 <Charlemagne19> Wraith Squadron could get a new generation. It'll be like the Police Academy movies!
20:47 <Rohniss> Lies, there can never be enough Hobbie / Janson
20:47 <AaronAllston> Jello: Nobody, to the best of my knowledge, has established anything about Hobbie in th current storyline. Meaning there are no details to relate. Sorry...
20:47 <McEwok> Hobbie/Janson, Rohniss? You're diversifying?
20:47 <Jello> Fair enough.
20:47 <Rohniss> Never !
20:47 <AaronAllston> Thanks, dgxxx.
20:48 <Dunc> Wasn't is Joss Whedon who said something like giving fans what they need, not what they want?
20:48 <Rohniss> its well established that they are furries.. like Gavin, it seems to be a Rouge Squadron thing
20:48 <Charlemagne19> Are Jaina and Zekk dating in these books or just friends, Aaron? Sorry to deluge you with questions. We need to slow down a bit.
20:48 <Jello> Furries?
20:48 <Charlemagne19> Don't ask Jello
20:48 <Charlemagne19> REALLY don't ask.
20:48 <Horsey> they like furry women
20:48 <Jello> Oh. I see.
20:48 <LtNOWIS> Hot Bothan chicks
20:48 <Dunc> It's like people who bitch every time something bad happens to their favorite character... You need the bad to get the good.
20:48 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: Well, maybe if there were a mass fan movement to get me to write a Wraith Squadron comic for Dark Horse, somebody might listen... <g> Can't be sure, though.
20:48 <Jello> Yes, I remember that part of the Rogue comics
20:49 <dgxxx> Aaron did you read the Legacy Comics?
20:49 <Jello> They make the Galactic Emperor cry.
20:49 <Horsey> that would be awesome!
20:49 <McEwok> Hobbie and Wes on Endor was like HMS Bounty on Tahiti... life-changing experience...
20:49 <Jello> I would certainly enjoy a Wraith Squadron comic. Heh.
20:49 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: Friends. I think he wants more, but she's too beset with problems.
20:49 <Rohniss> Aaron: In terms of Casualties, how many can we expect during the course of the story. (I realize you cant say much or at all, so high, medium, or little would be suffiecient)
20:50 <Rohniss> I mean over the whole 9 book series obviously
20:50 <AaronAllston> dgxxx: Some. I've picked up but haven't read the last few issues. (The eye thing again.)
20:50 <Jello> That kind of question is like tempting the gods. :-p
20:50 <Charlemagne19> Rohniss, I do find it interesting the Galactic Alliance are just sieging. They don't seem interesting in full scale invasion. If they did, they could crush all three systems like bugs I think> .
20:50 <dgxxx> did you use some of the Legacy comics to write?
20:51 <Jello> They're *still* sieging? This far in?
20:51 <Bootlegvader> What is like working with Troy and Karen?
20:51 <Charlemagne19> The siege is broken in the story Jello.
20:51 <Havac> Well, it's only now that the war has spread beyond Corellia.
20:51 <AaronAllston> Rohniss: Among named characters? Probably low to medium. (It doesn't take many to make grief go a long way...)
20:51 <Horsey> ugh...don't bring up bugs
20:51 <Rohniss> Thank You
20:51 <Havac> With it spreading, Jello, I'd expect to see more offensive action.
20:51 <Jello> okay
20:51 <Rohniss> and THANK YOU.. wahoo dead names I love it
20:52 <Jello> I haven't read Bloodlines and Tempest yet. I should probably get on that.
20:52 <Rohniss> *prays to Khorne the Blood God Luke is one*
20:52 <AaronAllston> dgxxx: No, but all three of us have had to keep an eye on them for continuity.
20:52 <Charlemagne19> Actually, better than Janson. I suggest Garik can become head of the Screen Actor's Guild and then Supreme Chancellor. He can bring down the Bastion Wall.
20:52 <dgxxx> good, thanks
20:52 * Dunc kicks Roh under the table.
20:52 <Graysaber> Aaron: Do you find it hard or easy to write already established characters?
20:52 <dgxxx> are we on a table? :P
20:52 <Dunc> Luke can't die just so you can gloat in SOS.
20:52 <Rohniss> Yes he can
20:52 <AaronAllston> Bootleg: It's fun. They're good people. I've known Troy for a long time -- we were game designers at the same time, back in the day.
20:53 * Dunc gives Roh The Look.
20:53 <Rohniss> Then I will declare total victory, the Potentium and Luke dead in the same series, It would be grand
20:53 <Charlemagne19> So, you already know the ending right?
20:53 * Horsey rolls her eyes at Roh
20:53 <Dunc> Rocks fall, everyone dies, right?
20:53 <dgxxx> Luke cant die days before C IV
20:53 <Jello> How are you guys doing those actions? :-p
20:53 <Charlemagne19> Bah, Rohniss, we'd just raise hell until they bring him back like Kirk came back in the books
20:53 <Dunc> '/me does something'
20:53 <Rohniss> '/me action
20:54 <Horsey> aww you told him
20:54 * Jello thanks you
20:54 <AaronAllston> Graysaber: Varies. Sometimes it takes me quite a while to find a handle on the character. (Like, it wasn't until this series that I found a handle on Corran Horn.) With some it's a lot faster, like Han or Wedge.
20:54 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: Pretty much, I do, yep.
20:54 <Rohniss> Aaron: is it true that Stackpole can out drink you?
20:55 <AaronAllston> Jello: Which actions?
20:55 * Horsey giggles
20:55 <Jello> the IRC actions
20:55 <Horsey> that action
20:55 * dgxxx this actions in purple
20:55 <Dunc> Sorry about Roh, He's fixated on drunken authors.
20:55 <Dunc> That's why he's the pool boy.
20:55 <Horsey> and killing things
20:55 <Charlemagne19> http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/a/ae/Maracorrantalon.jpg
20:55 <Rohniss> thats Pool GOD
20:55 <Charlemagne19> Stackpole loves to drink so much, he enters the GFFA for his liquor
20:56 <Jello> Eh?
20:56 <AaronAllston> Rohniss: I have no idea. We don't do drinking competitions. I outmass him, but I don't drink much -- four or five drinks a year.
20:56 <Graysaber> Aaron: Is this your last step in to a galaxy far far away(As in, are you writin' sat wars after this)?
20:56 <Rohniss> Thanks, I mean to lighten the mood :D
20:57 <Charlemagne19> So is Alema now Lumiya's Dark sidekick (pun intended)?
20:57 <AaronAllston> I'm going to have to go in five minutes or so, so if you have something to ask, make it what you're most curious about...
20:57 <dgxxx> the name of book 9? :P
20:57 <Dunc> :D
20:57 <Dunc> Oh geez....
20:57 <Rohniss> Rohniss Wins
20:57 <AaronAllston> Graysaber: I will if Del Rey asks me to. But my next novel or two will be originals rather than Star Wars. I hope they do ask me back.
20:57 <Jello> Can you tell us anything about the future course of the Remnant and if we'll see Imperials heading towards the state they do in the Legacy comics?
20:57 <Rohniss> thats book 9
20:58 <Charlemagne19> Last Question: So how did you get picked for this series? Available or did the fans pour their need for Allstonisms? Will there be more Allstonisms in the series and humor or will it be too series?
20:58 <Jello> or will that be left in the aether between the two series?
20:58 <dgxxx> Star Wars Legacy of the Force : Rohniss Wins ?
20:58 <Dunc> umm...
20:58 <AaronAllston> Charlemagne: Nah... Lumiya doesn't thrust Alema any farther than she can throw her. Come to think of it, she can throw her quite a distance, so that's not a good comparison.
20:58 <Dunc> LOTF: The Final Countdown.
20:58 <McEwok> Was the contrast with the "squadron in the military" dynamic in your previous SW books conscious/deliberate (you flagged it up in Jag's arc at least)...
20:58 <Graysaber> Last question: Is alema going to die soon (looks hopeful)?
20:59 <Bootlegvader> Can you give us any spoilers for Sacrifice? :P
20:59 <Dunc> Oh, Alema. Her continued existance WILL pay off in a really awesome way, right?
20:59 <AaronAllston> Jello: I can't, really. Half secret, half I don't know.
20:59 <Jello> Aha. I knew you guys were hiding something from me when I asked during the C3 panel. :p
20:59 <Rohniss> I dont have any futher questions: But very good job on Exile it rather enjoy reading your work. lots of references, winks at the fandom, humor, and serious when it needs to be
20:59 <Jello> and people thought I was out of my mind for bringing up last year's villains :-D
20:59 <Rohniss> it should be I
20:59 <Jello> thank you
21:00 <Charlemagne19> Thanks for your time AA.
21:00 <Horsey> AA Why did you write Leia and Jaina using their anger in the fight with Alema?
21:00 <AaronAllston> McEwok: Merely a consequence of trying to see everything from every character's POV, actually. Also a reflection of the perspective of Imperial fandom, which likes things orderly and arranged.
21:00 <Havac> Did you deliberately try to write Luke as a stronger, more decisive character in response to some criticism of his role in the NJO? Or was that just how you saw him?
21:00 <Jello> Yes, Imperial fandom certainly does.
21:00 <AaronAllston> Thanks, Rohniss.
21:01 <dgxxx> Thanks Aaron for answering the questions!
21:01 <dgxxx> i m sure Fury will be the best
21:01 <McEwok> Aye, thanks!
21:01 <Graysaber> Thanks? :0
21:01 <AaronAllston> Horsey: I'm not sure they used it. They didn't use it to fuel their strength. They just felt it.
21:01 <Dunc> Yes, thanks muchly for coming!
21:01 <Rohniss> Ohh yeah, was it Zoist influencing Ben to leave the girl for dead, or was it more his own decision
21:01 <Horsey> ok thanks. That makes me feel better
21:01 <Bootlegvader> Thanks
21:01 <Havac> Ziost, Roh.
21:01 <Rohniss> I missed it earlier
21:01 <AaronAllston> Havac: Just as I see him.
21:02 <Havac> Cool.
21:02 <Havac> Thanks for your time, and for the great book. I really enjoyed it.
21:02 <LtNOWIS> Yeah, I really loved it.
21:02 <Jello> We all appreciate you coming to talk to us. I have yet to read the book, but I'm confident that it's going to be a real treat.
21:02 <AaronAllston> Gotta go... Rohniss, no, it was mostly Jacen's teaching. The planet wanted him to eat her.
21:02 <AaronAllston> Adios, all, and thanks for having me.
21:03 <dgxxx> Adios Aaron!
21:03 <Rohniss> Thanks
21:03 <Dunc> G'night!
21:03 <Rohniss> Smooth Sailing and kill them All for me
21:03 <Horsey> night!
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21:03 <BobQ> Goodnight, all!
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21:03 <McEwok> Yub yub!!
21:03 <Dunc> :D
21:03 <dgxxx> good chat!
21:03 <Rohniss> I didnt even have time to totally jack the chat
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21:03 <LosDosMos> That was neat
21:03 <Rohniss> grr curse you Home Depot
21:04 * Horsey smacks Roh
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21:04 <Jello> I think I can stop neglecting Cicero now...
21:04 <dgxxx> i was kinda hoping we get book 9 name
21:04 <Charlemagne19> SNIPER ATTACK!
21:04 <Charlemagne19> *Ducks*
21:04 * Horsey tackles Charles
21:04 <Charlemagne19> *Myn starts shooting*
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21:04 <Rohniss> Meh, I dont have any sniper rifles
21:04 <Rohniss> ATM
21:04 * Jello is invulnerable to snipers
21:04 <Havac> Cicero?
21:04 * dgxxx has mandalorian armor
21:04 <Rohniss> Jell <3 Rome
21:04 * Kyptastic dies
21:05 <Dunc> Cicero's dead, baybee,
21:05 <Jello> Indeed. I was avoiding working on my Ciceronian paper because of this chat.
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21:05 <Dunc> hehe
21:05 <Havac> Ah. Knowing you, I almost suspected he was a pet.
21:05 * Horsey sets mode: +v Whiskers
21:05 <Jello> :-p
21:05 <Charlemagne19> Ah that was illuminating.
21:05 <dgxxx> can we free tiki now?
21:05 * Havac sets mode: -m
21:05 * Dunc changes topic to 'Chat chat chat.'
21:05 <Jello> It's a fun read, though. If he was a JCer, he'd certainly be banned for flaming.
21:05 <Jello> Cicero, thatis.
21:05 <Charlemagne19> Aaron killed the Jag is a secret agent theory.
21:05 <Jello> :-p
21:05 <Charlemagne19> Didn't deny J/J
21:06 <Charlemagne19> And he also confirmed the planet was behind the canniBenism
21:06 <dgxxx> tiki
21:06 <tiki> yes, dgxxx?
21:06 <Dunc> Welcome back, Tiki
21:06 <tiki> Dunc: what?
21:06 <Dunc> Dumbass
21:06 <McEwok> C19, no he didn't.
21:06 <Horsey> cannibenism....hahah
21:06 <Rohniss> But confirmed that the original death to exposure was all Ben
21:06 <McEwok> That was Jacen.
21:06 <Charlemagne19> Well the guy was going to die anyway
21:06 <Rohniss> Ben = heading for the Dark Side as well
21:06 <LtNOWIS> Well, that was the logical way to complete the mission.
21:06 <Horsey> no way Roh
21:06 <Rohniss> no the Girl
21:06 <dgxxx> i dont think so
21:06 <dgxxx> it was ziot
21:07 <Horsey> AA said he planted cracks in that theory in Exile
21:07 <Havac> Ben isn't going dark, Roh.
21:07 <dgxxx> and Kiara was too cute to eat
21:07 <Rohniss> Gotta go... Rohniss, no, it was mostly Jacen's teaching. The planet wanted him to eat her.
21:07 <Charlemagne19> Turr Phenirr will win the war for us all!
21:07 <Charlemagne19> Will Grand Admiral Phenirr conquer the Remnant?
21:07 <Kyptastic> Pash>Phennir
21:07 <LtNOWIS> Yeah, he's not going dark, because he decided to do the un-Jacen thing and save the girl.
21:07 * Kyptastic hides from Jello
21:07 <Rohniss> I dunno I always saw Phennir as a loser
21:07 <Charlemagne19> I can see Phenirr marrying Fel's daughter and becoming the father of Fel the First!
21:07 <dgxxx> Jacen wouldnt leave the girl
21:07 <Horsey> Corran > all
21:07 <Whiskers> That would be an amusing twist, Charle
21:08 <dgxxx> Kyle´s beard > Corran
21:08 <Horsey> :o
21:08 <Havac> Phennir's a twit.
21:08 <Rohniss> I hope he kills Corran
21:08 <Jello> Phennir >>>>> Pash
21:08 * Horsey kicks Roh
21:08 <Havac> Stele is where it's at, as far as Imp loyalist pilots go.
21:09 <Charlemagne19> Yes, he sucks tremendously. Why he's Starscream but you must admire his lackeyness. Much like Skorr
21:09 <Charlemagne19> Yes, Jacen would have killed the girl
21:09 <Havac> Stele should be Pelly's replacement as SCOTIF.
21:09 <Jello> Yes. Please.
21:09 <Kyptastic> We need more on Stele. He drops off the radar prior to the YV war...
21:09 <Jello> Borsk Fey'lya would be better than Pelly.
21:10 <Charlemagne19> Turr Phenirr is Skorr secret child.
21:10 <Horsey> Where do we meet Stele?
21:10 <Charlemagne19> TIE Fighter the video Game
21:10 <Kyptastic> TIE Fighter
21:10 <Havac> TIE Fighter.
21:10 <Whiskers> In an RPG seed
21:10 <Jello> TIE Fighter and "The Emperor's Pawns"
21:10 <Kyptastic> lol
21:10 <Whiskers> in Emperor's Pawns
21:10 <Charlemagne19> According to canon, he killed 86 Starfighters.
21:10 <Whiskers> His only NJO appearance IIRC
21:10 <Jello> Just 86? Are you sure?
21:10 <Charlemagne19> and single handidly destroyed a Nebulon B frigate
21:10 <Jello> I'd have to check my TIE guide again.
21:10 <Charlemagne19> Well that's only in TIE fighter
21:10 <Jello> But I'm sure it's more than that.
21:10 <Havac> Publius has a pretty high count for him on his site.
21:10 <Horsey> darn video games
21:10 <Jello> Yeah, he uses the player's guide.
21:11 <McEwok> Publius is full of fanon.
21:11 <dgxxx> a little off topic: In a interview with GL he said that the CW animated series will take place between EP 1 and 2 :P
21:11 <Horsey> especially flying ones
21:11 <Jello> Fanon? Are you sure you aren't just reading the fiction section?
21:11 <Whiskers> That would be a very short series
21:11 <Charlemagne19> I assume that's a typo
21:11 <Havac> Publius has good analysis, but he's too wiling to mix in his fanon.
21:11 <Whiskers> Watch as the first clashes happen!
21:11 <Whiskers> One person dies!
21:11 <dgxxx> he said it
21:11 <McEwok> Jello, nope. Speculation in the bios
21:12 <Jello> Example?
21:12 <McEwok> Not major, but I had to rewrite Harrsk, Delvardus and Teradoc at Wookiee
21:12 <Jello> You and he rarely see eye to eye, though.
21:13 <Jello> When he does speculate, he says so.
21:13 <Jello> it's a caveat
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21:14 <Charlemagne19> Publius is much like the Lightsaber of Truth
21:14 <Charlemagne19> It's almost all speculation in places but GOOD speculation
21:14 <Dunc> Hey, Exile!
21:14 <Dunc> How about it?
21:14 <tiki> or know by Ring or Circle of Fire/Death
21:14 <Dunc> What?
21:14 <tiki> I'm wearing PAMPERS!!
21:14 <Horsey> tiki forget that
21:14 <tiki> Horsey: I forgot that
21:14 <Dunc> hee
21:14 <Rohniss> Get back to Exile..
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21:14 <Horsey> Dunc I tried to get him to forget that earlier but it wouldn't work
21:14 <Horsey> McEwok?
21:14 <tiki> McEwok is back!!!!!
21:14 <McEwok_> *returns*
21:14 <McEwok_> Forget what?
21:14 <tiki> McEwok_: I forgot what
21:15 <Jello> Exile? Who?
21:15 <Horsey> noooooooooo
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21:15 <Jello> Why were they exiled?
21:15 <Horsey> what?
21:15 <tiki> I guess it was all a DREAM ... or an episode of HAWAII FIVE-O ...
21:15 <Horsey> phew
21:15 <Dunc> And that's why we had the room moderated.
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21:15 <McEwok> Ahh.
21:15 * Horsey pats tiki
21:15 <Havac> Allston might have enjoyed Tiki.
21:15 <dgxxx> tiki rum
21:15 <tiki> i heard rum was on the menu
21:16 <dgxxx> yeah maybe he would put it in Fury
21:16 <Charlemagne19> Well I must run
21:16 <Dunc> He might. But there was enough going on without random bottage.
21:16 <Jello> You must?
21:16 <Horsey> night Charles!
21:16 <Jello> Pelly said the same thing...
21:16 <Jello> adieu!
21:16 <Jello> :-)
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21:17 <Dunc> So... Anyone want to discuss Exile?
21:17 <Dunc> Or is the thrill gone?
21:17 <dgxxx> me me
21:17 <Whiskers> I liked the book.
21:17 <Horsey> I'm still up for discussing it
21:17 <Dunc> What was your favorite part?
21:17 <Havac> By Chuck.
21:17 <Horsey> CORRAN HORN!
21:17 <tiki> somebody said corran horn was a sexy man
21:17 <Havac> *bye
21:17 <Horsey> sorry
21:17 <McEwok> Loved it.
21:17 <Horsey> I'll stop before Hav boots me
21:17 <Rohniss> forget Corran
21:17 <tiki> Rohniss: I forgot corran
21:18 <Horsey> ROH!
21:18 <tiki> i guess roh is lacking in stamina
21:18 <Whiskers> I really liked the whole assassination plot with Wedge
21:18 <McEwok> Dammit, I meant to ask about the Man Who Doesn't Exist
21:18 <Rohniss> forget roh
21:18 <tiki> Rohniss: I forgot roh
21:18 <dgxxx> Ben´s quest and the final part
21:18 * Dunc sets mode: +m
21:18 <Dunc> I liked Ben.
21:18 <Rohniss> the Man who doesnt Exist?
21:18 <Havac> I liked it all.
21:18 <McEwok> dgxxx your posts keep saying "(incompatible encoding)" at the end
21:18 <Dunc> But it was a bit too serial with the excerpt and all.
21:18 <McEwok> Rohniss: dream!Jacen
21:18 <Rohniss> ahh
21:18 <Horsey> I don't see that McEwok
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21:18 <Rohniss> from the 1st book
21:19 <Aragorn327> Been fun lurking, but I'm out. g'night all. /wave
21:19 <dgxxx> thats weird McEwok
21:19 <McEwok> Aye.
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21:19 <McEwok> Aye. It was a strong book in itself...
21:19 <dgxxx> it was kinda sad see Ben kick Shaker and start to cry
21:19 <Jello> I guess I'm not much use here, having not actually read the thing.
21:19 <McEwok> The excerpt annoyed me - because it felt like a second ending, rather than a new chapter.
21:19 <Jello> So I'll be heading off
21:19 <Jello> it's been a pleasure
21:19 <Rohniss> Exile and Betrayal were probally the best books in the series thus far
21:19 <Jello> good night
21:19 <Dunc> Ben is getting very... real.
21:20 <McEwok> *sends some Vindicator Star Destroyers to harrass (friendly-like) Jello's retreat*
21:20 <LosDosMos> I really liked Ben again in Exile, after being thorough annoyed by him in Tempest
21:20 <Dunc> I'm attached to him in a way I never was with the Solo brats.
21:20 <Whiskers> I personally think that Exile and Tempest were the best
21:20 <McEwok> Dunc: *nods*
21:20 <McEwok> Dunc: he's not been written by KJA.
21:20 <dgxxx> i vote for Exile and Bloodlines :)
21:20 <Dunc> Hehe. True
21:20 <Jello> Retreat? Graceful exeunt. :p
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21:20 <McEwok> The man who had Luke sharing a bunk with teenage padawans....
21:20 <Rohniss> Luke the pedo
21:20 * Dunc rolls her eyes
21:21 <McEwok> Rohniss, maturity, please.
21:21 * Dunc snorts.
21:21 <Rohniss> From McE?
21:21 <Rohniss> Ahahahahah
21:21 <Horsey> Roh maturity?
21:21 * McEwok is insulted
21:21 <Horsey> oh dear you're asking for the impossible
21:21 <McEwok> *grins nastily*
21:21 <McEwok> Dammit, that killed the discussion...
21:21 <Dunc> 'Wok, you're the one who points this stuff out, and Roh being Roh...
21:22 <Whiskers> Is it bad that everytime I see "Roh", I think of the wrestling promotion.
21:22 <Dunc> Well, what do you expect?
21:22 <McEwok> Fact.
21:22 <Horsey> Roh is a wrestling promotion?
21:22 * Dunc tries not think of wrestling.
21:22 <Whiskers> Ring of Honor
21:22 <Dunc> :P
21:22 <dgxxx> ehm... What are yours expectations for Sacrifice????
21:22 <Horsey> and Smikie isn't even here!
21:22 <Rohniss> you cant bait me, I bite.. like a big nasty catfish
21:22 <Horsey> Lumiya bites it
21:22 <Whiskers> Other than the "They're all going to die?" I think it could stack up well with the other books of the series.
21:23 <Dunc> I'm not forming any expectations
21:23 <Rohniss> Luke dies.. the Death Spot has never been wrong before
21:23 * Horsey throws her cane at Roh and says "Zap Zap"
21:23 <Dunc> Oh god oh god we're all gonna die?
21:23 <Dunc> Hmm. I need to make an icon.
21:23 <dgxxx> Mara dies
21:23 <dgxxx> mark my words
21:23 <Whiskers> Exactly what I was referencing, Dunc
21:23 <McEwok> Life has a 100% fatality rate
21:23 <Rohniss> mere toys dont work against the chosen of Khorne
21:23 <McEwok> Or close, anyway.