19:35 <Trip> Luke's whole first class is a mess, really...
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19:35 <Trip> It's ridonkulous that we still don't know who his entire first class was.
19:35 <Typo> Right.
19:35 <Albireo> It went rather well, I think. Stayed on topic better than the last time I was here.
19:35 <Jello> Yeah, it was more of a "talk about anything BUT Legacy chat" :-p
19:35 <Typo> What was it, 12 students, right?
19:35 <Trip> Yeah.
19:35 <Albireo> No.
19:36 <Trip> We're missing two still.
19:36 <Trip> There's really no excuse for Stackpole not giving them (and Madurrin, at the time) names.
19:36 <Albireo> Of course there is.
19:36 <Trip> Well... none for KJA, either, but less for Stackie. :P
19:36 <LordHydronium> Hm...Havet Storm, maybe?
19:36 <Trip> Maybe.
19:37 <Trip> I've decided that Harlan's gotta be one of them.
19:37 <LordHydronium> Sanders?
19:37 <Albireo> But that would make the lizard whatever his name a member too... And Havet was just a student when he was killed, correct?
19:37 <Trip> No, that chick from the JASB
19:37 <LordHydronium> Oh. That makes more sense. :P
19:37 <Trip> The one Leland says probably isn't canon.
19:37 <LordHydronium> Wait, she's in the JASB...but not canon?
19:38 <Trip> She's a player example character or something.
19:38 <LordHydronium> Ah.
19:38 <Trip> But there's a mystery woman in the NEC.
19:38 <Trip> So, may as well.
19:38 <Trip> I figure.
19:38 <Typo> Who do we know?
19:38 <LordHydronium> Mystery woman?
19:38 <Trip> There's also a mystery guy, but I guess he could be Brakiss.
19:38 <Trip> We know ten:
19:39 <Trip> Corran, Kyle, Brakiss, Kam, Tionee, Dorsk 1.0, Streen, Kirana Ti, Madurrin, and...
19:39 <Trip> Gantoris, yeah.
19:39 <Trip> Missing two.
19:39 <Trip> But there's a myster woman in the NEC, and a guy who may or may not be Gantoris.
19:39 <Trip> So they might be it.
19:39 <Trip> Hydro-- in the "class photo."
19:39 <Typo> Yeah, so they're not counting the in-and-out Kyle and Mara, I'm assuming.
19:39 <LordHydronium> This one, right? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Luke_with_Jedi.jpg
19:39 <Trip> No, Kyle counts.
19:40 <Typo> Really?
19:40 <Typo> That's kinda meh.
19:40 <Typo> He wasn't there for very long.
19:40 <Trip> Yeah, that one.
19:40 <Trip> Typo-- it is.
19:40 <Trip> It's stupid, too, because supposedly he and Corran were pals.
19:40 <LordHydronium> Isn't that Streen in the back? I thought he had some weird helmet.
19:40 <Trip> You'd think he'd've been mentioned in the book
19:40 <LordHydronium> In some sources.
19:40 <Trip> Yeah, streen in back.
19:40 <dgAWAY> what is the topic?
19:40 <Trip> Luke, then ?
19:40 <LordHydronium> Then Kirana, then Kyp, then Luke.
19:40 <Trip> Then Kirana Ti, then Mystery Girl.
19:41 <LordHydronium> And the chick in the foreground.
19:41 <Trip> No, Kyp wasn't in the first class.
19:41 <Trip> He came in later.
19:41 <Trip> After Gantoris got toasted.
19:41 <LordHydronium> I'm pretty sure that's Kyp between Kirana and Luke, isn't it?
19:41 <Typo> He filled in after Gantoris.
19:41 <Trip> It looks vaguely like Kyp, but it can't be him.
19:41 <Trip> The caption specifies that those're from the first batch of students.
19:42 <Typo> Ah.
19:42 <Trip> So: Gantoris?
19:42 <Typo> Maybe.
19:42 <Trip> Or Mystery #2?
19:42 <Typo> Gantoris was rather young, no?
19:42 <Trip> Yeah, twenties, IIRC.
19:42 <LordHydronium> Oh, yeah, the caption does say it's the starting class.
19:42 <Typo> Not Kyp young, but young nonetheless.
19:42 <Trip> Ponytail, though.
19:42 <Trip> Although I guess there could be one down that guy's back.
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19:42 <Typo> Yeah, I think it is him.
19:43 <Trip> It works, yeah.
19:43 <Typo> His hair does look like it's drawn back some.
19:43 <dgAWAY> wb Horsey
19:43 * dgAWAY is now known as dgxxx
19:43 <Horsey> ty
19:43 <Trip> So, we have Mystery Woman and Mystery Number 2.
19:43 <Trip> Mystery Woman may as well be Harlan.
19:43 <Trip> Although we'll see.
19:43 <Trip> Mystery 2?
19:43 <Trip> I refuse to believe Keyan was /also/ there and unmentioned by Corran.
19:44 <Trip> So, Havet? That guy from Nightsaber?
19:44 <Trip> Also, Mystery Woman Who Ought To Be Harlan has a 'saber.
19:44 <LordHydronium> Doesn't look like Havet.
19:44 <Typo> As much as I agree with you, Keyan really should have been part of the first class.
19:45 <Trip> Supposedly Corran and Kam-- and later Gantoris-- were the only ones with 'sabers.
19:45 <dgxxx> what class?
19:45 <Trip> So does Corran have a faulty memory?
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19:45 <Trip> Is that a prop for the holo?
19:45 <LordHydronium> Maybe Voren just captioned it wrong. :P
19:45 <Trip> Typo-- he should.
19:45 <Trip> Or that. :P
19:45 <Trip> But that's too easy.
19:46 <Typo> I think Corran does have a faulty memory.
19:46 <LordHydronium> Really, I think the artist intended it to be Kyp.
19:46 <Trip> It bugs me enough that Kyle was there along with Corran and unmentioned, though.
19:46 <Typo> To be honest.
19:46 <LordHydronium> But that doesn't work with the caption.
19:46 <LordHydronium> So...
19:46 <Trip> He works as Gantoris, though.
19:46 <Trip> As Typo pointed out.
19:47 <Trip> Yeah, I'd also think Corran might've mentioned a big giant dinosaur at least once.
19:47 <LordHydronium> "There are far worse things than heat." - Gantoris to Luke Skywalker
19:47 <LordHydronium> Ah, that scintillating KJA dialogue.
19:47 <Typo> I think that it's likely that Corran wouldn't know of Keyan.
19:47 <Typo> He flew under the radar pretty well after Yavin.
19:47 <Typo> So to speak.
19:47 <Trip> Yeah, true.
19:48 <Trip> Hm.
19:48 <Trip> Maybe Corran purposely altered his diary/memoirs/whatever?
19:48 <Havac> What are we talking about?
19:48 <Trip> All the stuff he did was Kyle's idea.
19:48 <Trip> He just took credit. :P
19:48 <Typo> Or perhaps he's just not as observant as he likes to say he is.
19:48 <LordHydronium> Havac: First class of the NJO.
19:49 <Trip> You'd have to be blind not to see a twelve foot dinosaur.
19:49 <Havac> Madurrin?
19:49 <Typo> Yes.
19:49 <Trip> Yeah.
19:49 <Typo> And he sure didn't see Madurrin.
19:49 <Trip> The Dark Force saga also indicates that Corran and Kyle became fast friends.
19:49 <Trip> So it's bizarre that he wasn't mentioned at all.
19:49 <RF> Kyle's presence was classified. :p
19:49 <Havac> I really wish the class had just been set out firmly from the start.
19:50 <Typo> Don't we all?
19:50 <Trip> Yeah.
19:50 <Albireo> No.
19:50 <Trip> Like I said, twelve students.
19:50 <Trip> There's really no excuse.
19:50 <Trip> Especially for Stackpole.
19:50 <Typo> If they can give us a solid number, why not some solid names?
19:50 <Trip> If you're gonna redo things, at least do them all the way.
19:50 <Trip> Yeah, if it was a vague number, then whatever.
19:50 <Albireo> He was just fixing broken things, not making them perfect.
19:51 <Trip> But if you specify a dozen, then we'd better get a dozen.
19:51 <dgxxx> how loong til the Legacy chat?
19:51 <Typo> I don't blame Stackpole, really.
19:51 <LordHydronium> 9 minuts, dg.
19:51 <LordHydronium> *minutes
19:51 <Typo> I just wish that, over the years, we'd have been given a solid list of names.
19:51 <Typo> Instead of sitting around scratching our heads.
19:51 <Albireo> It's just like the Beatles. How many there were?
19:51 <Albireo> Everybody has their own opinion.
19:52 <Trip> Hmm...
19:52 <Typo> Of how many Beatles there were?
19:52 <Trip> Has anyone ever asked Leland?
19:52 <Albireo> Yep.
19:52 <LordHydronium> Hm, reading the Dark Forces Saga, Havet wouldn't work, I don't think.
19:52 <Albireo> About the Beatles?
19:52 <Trip> I wonder if the holocron already has them all, and no one asked. :P
19:52 <Typo> Yeah, what is Lelands official stance on the Beatles?
19:52 <Trip> Leland says he prefers not to give a concrete number.
19:53 <Dunc> Does he perfer John or Paul?
19:53 <Typo> I bet he says that Ringo isn't canon.
19:53 <Trip> He says that the 'Cron has him as S-canon.
19:53 <Trip> So it's iffy.
19:53 <Albireo> There are few older Jedi like Kenth who appear out of nowhere. Could he be one of them? Or that Traviss character, Kubariet?
19:53 <LordHydronium> You mean, what is Leland's stance on beetuls? :P http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Beetul
19:54 <Albireo> Instead of some students like Storm who died young.
19:54 <Trip> Luke apparently was taking on students like crazy right after JAT ended.
19:54 <Havac> Yeah, people like Cray and Nichos, too.
19:55 <Trip> And Jaden's entire class.
19:55 <Trip> And all the folks in JO.
19:55 <Albireo> The training was fast then. So why not?
19:55 <Havac> And half the first class got promoted in about a year. The rest took about ten.
19:55 <Trip> And all the people in JA:L
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19:55 <Trip> How do people in the Skywalker order make Master, anyway?
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19:55 <Albireo> It was only natural that after the original rush to train Jedi they would try to increase the quality of training.
19:56 <Trip> Denning all but outright said they do the same thing Ruusan ones did.
19:56 <Trip> But Luke's pissy with Jacen for not being a master, and insists Ben needs a genuine master...
19:56 <Trip> What gives?
19:56 <Albireo> Originally one had to train a student to Jedi Knight status, but apparently now one is made a Master, without having to train anyone.
19:56 <Trip> Right.
19:56 <Trip> When and why did that change?
19:57 <Trip> And how does one become a Master now?
19:57 <Albireo> It might be that now it is only the Masters that can train new Jedi Knights.
19:57 <Albireo> It was basically changed in LotF, I think.
19:57 <LordHydronium> The Jacen-mastery thing suggests that the Council names them.
19:57 <Trip> Yep.
19:57 <Trip> But five years earlier they're doing the same Ruusan style masterships.
19:58 <Albireo> Yes.
19:58 <Trip> So...
19:58 <Trip> I guess plot's the only explanation, eh?
19:58 <Trip> :P
19:58 <Typo> Luke's been winging it for years.
19:58 <Albireo> Perhaps the authors changed this so that Jaina and (theoretically) Jacen could become Masters without having to have apprentices in LotF.
19:59 <Albireo> No need for Jaina to have yet another sidekick.
19:59 <Typo> No kidding.
19:59 <dgxxx> you need apprentices to be a master?
19:59 <Albireo> Previously yes, not now.
19:59 <Trip> Prior to 75 you did.
19:59 <Dunc> ALMOST TIME
19:59 <Dunc> PUT ON YOUR LEGACY HATS!
19:59 <LordHydronium> Typo's right. Luke probably changes it on a whim. "This week, everyone with a "K" in their name is a Master."
19:59 <Trip> Now, who knows.
19:59 <Dunc> ANY...
20:00 <Dunc> MINUTE...
20:00 <Dunc> NOW!
20:00 <LordHydronium> Kirana, Kenth, Kam, Kyle...not you, Corran.
20:00 * Dunc changes topic to 'Legacy Chat is ON!.'
20:00 <Trip> Although by 175 we're back to the standard Ruusan-style thing.
20:00 <Trip> Okay, okay, Legacy.
20:00 <dgxxx> quick! Legacy thoughts!
20:00 <Dunc> Children?
20:00 <LordHydronium> Legawhat?
20:00 <LordHydronium> Whatacy?
20:00 <Dunc> Comics
20:00 <Dunc> The future
20:00 <LordHydronium> Oh, that series with Darth Caedus. :P
20:00 <Dunc> Get your brains off Yavin IV
20:00 <Albireo> I have just spend hours of talking about it...
20:00 <Typo> My clock says I have a minute!
20:00 <LordHydronium> No, wait, the Jude Watson bok.
20:00 <LordHydronium> *book
20:01 <Dunc> Too bad!
20:01 <Typo> Aww!
20:01 <LordHydronium> Ooh, ooh, I know! The History Channel special!
20:01 <Trip> I think Siri's Mara's mother.
20:01 <Typo> You're killing my fun!
20:01 * Dunc facepalms
20:01 <Trip> Wouldn't that be awesome????
20:01 <Dunc> Don't make me turn this car around.
20:01 <LordHydronium> This is no car. It's a space station.
20:01 <dgxxx> who will be the new villain when Krayt dies?
20:01 <Typo> Nihl.
20:01 <Trip> Krayt won't die.
20:01 <Albireo> Siri gave birth years after her death?
20:02 <Trip> He is...
20:02 <Trip> Invincible.
20:02 <LordHydronium> Empress Calixte.
20:02 <Dunc> Who says Krayt is gonna die?
20:02 <Typo> If he does, it'll be Nihl.
20:02 <Typo> But he won't.
20:02 <Albireo> Roan Fel.
20:02 <Typo> He's already a villain.
20:02 <Trip> Stazi.
20:02 <Typo> Just not THE villain.
20:02 <Trip> He'll be the new villain.
20:02 <Typo> His name rhymes with Nazi, so yes, that is possible!
20:03 <Trip> Roan's the hero, silly.
20:03 <Albireo> Why not surprise as all and make Cade the new villain? It's not like we would have seen anything similar in EU...
20:03 <Dunc> Shush you
20:03 <LordHydronium> Roan transcends such simple designations as "hero" and "villain".
20:03 <LordHydronium> Roan simply is.
20:03 <Albireo> Well, Roan Lands was a kind of hero...
20:03 <Trip> Victorious on All Fronts.
20:03 <Albireo> But then Vader killed him.
20:04 <Albireo> Just to spite Ferus.
20:04 <LordHydronium> All Roans lead to Rome.
20:04 <Trip> I really hope Colin comes back to Legacy.
20:04 <LordHydronium> Roan Shryne?
20:04 <LordHydronium> Man, there are a lot of Roans.
20:04 <LtNOWIS> I created the disambig page for them.
20:04 <Ulicus> Hero, villian, saviour, conquerer - Roan Fel is all things, but in the end he is victorious on all fronts
20:04 <Trip> I've noticed that Jan and John recycled a lot of names for Legacy.
20:04 <Trip> Which I like.
20:04 <Dunc> Oh, was Roan the name of Ferus' ~*true love*~
20:04 <LtNOWIS> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Roan_%28disambiguation%29
20:05 <Dunc> Me too, Trip.
20:05 <LordHydronium> And used a lot of "-iah" names.
20:05 <Dunc> Very realistic
20:05 <Trip> Yep.
20:05 <LtNOWIS> 2 Roans are from Jude Watson
20:06 <Typo> I bet that a lot of those names are, in universe, tribute to historic figures.
20:06 <Albireo> Will Legacy ever aknowledge it's debt to Watson's work?
20:06 <Trip> Especially Vaos with no relation to Mission.
20:06 <Trip> That delighted me.
20:06 <Trip> Death to stupid assumptions!
20:06 <Trip> Ganner probably is, Typo.
20:06 <Typo> Very likely.
20:06 <Trip> Roan and other, though, I can just see being common names.
20:06 <Typo> Perhaps.
20:07 <Dunc> Roan Antilles, John Smith of the GFFA?
20:07 <LtNOWIS> Well a lot of common names are named after someone, ultimately.
20:07 <Trip> True.
20:07 <LordHydronium> Off topic, but I thought The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader saying that "Skywalker" wasn't an uncommon name was interesting.
20:07 <dgxxx> Im sure there is a lot of Lukes in the GFFA
20:08 <Albireo> Especially as we haven't seen anyother Skywalkers.
20:08 <Trip> We've only seen, what, .0000000001% of the galaxy's people?
20:08 <LtNOWIS> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luke
20:08 <dgxxx> a lot of mothers would put "Luke" to his children just cause of Luke
20:09 <LtNOWIS> Didn't that new Windham book confirm Skywalker was a common name?
20:09 <Albireo> Yet we have seen several Antilles families.
20:09 <LordHydronium> Nowis: As said about 6 lines above, yes. ;)
20:09 <LtNOWIS> Dang.
20:09 <LtNOWIS> Curse you.
20:09 <Trip> Albireo-- think of Antilles as Jones.
20:09 <Trip> And Skywalker as, I don't know...
20:09 <Albireo> Logically there should be lots of Lukes and Leias and Hans in the galaxy.
20:09 <Trip> Lucas.
20:10 <Trip> Or whatever.
20:10 <Albireo> Hero worship and all that.
20:10 <Trip> Less common, but still common.
20:10 <LtNOWIS> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Han
20:10 <LtNOWIS> No other Leias AFAIK
20:10 <Trip> Naw, everyone hates Luke.
20:10 <Ulicus> I'd like "Skywalker" to just be a name that meant "Pilot"
20:10 <Trip> And Leia, too.
20:10 <Trip> Han I could see.
20:10 <Typo> In all seriousness, what is "Common" in the galaxy? It's a big place out there.
20:10 <Trip> Skywalker is heavily implied to be a Tatooine-specific surname.
20:10 <dgxxx> Hmm it will be interesting that some mother put her children a Vong name :P
20:10 <Ulicus> So, you have a lot of skywalkers, becuase you have a lot of descendants from pilots
20:11 <Trip> Or at least that part of the Rim.
20:11 <Ulicus> Ah, ok
20:11 <Albireo> Except that the family didn't come from Tatooine.
20:11 <Dunc> There's a George Lucas out there who's a paster in... Indiana, I think?
20:11 <Trip> Well, they didn't know that. :P
20:11 <Trip> Most implications come prior to the prequels.
20:11 <Albireo> Vong name like Kol?
20:11 <dgxxx> Interestin Albireo
20:11 <Trip> Darklighter, Sandskimmer, etc.
20:11 <LtNOWIS> Shmi's not a native Tatooinian
20:11 <Ulicus> I still think there's nothing that says Luke couldn't have been Luke Lars until Obi-Wan told him the truth about his father :P
20:12 <dgxxx> rumdrinker, now thats a good last name
20:12 <Trip> Nowis-- yeah, but prior to the prequels I think Annie was a tatooine native.
20:12 <Trip> Not that it matters now.
20:12 <Trip> Although, other rimkin seem to have similar names.
20:12 <Trip> Starkiller from Aduba-3, etc.
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20:13 <LordHydronium> Starkiller - now there's a common name.
20:13 <Typo> Good job RF.
20:13 <Trip> Yeah.
20:13 <Trip> Bendak...
20:13 <Dunc> OH HEY AREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT LEGACY?
20:13 <RF> NO.
20:13 <dgxxx> Kol is a Vong name?
20:13 <LordHydronium> Even amongst the Mon Calamari, THANK YOU VERY MUCH GALAXIES. :|
20:13 <LtNOWIS> Guinea pig is today's FA on Wikipedia.
20:13 <Dunc> Maybe Cade will run into some of those unrelated Skywalker. :P
20:13 <Ulicus> We're talking about the folks who left the legacy....
20:14 <LtNOWIS> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Starkiller
20:14 <Typo> Nah, Dunc. I honestly think Cade's it.
20:14 <LtNOWIS> Maybe it's like "Stalin," Hydro
20:14 <Trip> Wow.
20:14 <Albireo> Kol is a name found among Humans, Aliens and Yuuzhan Vong as a first name.
20:14 <Typo> Krayt had all the other Skywalker's killed so everyone would forget about that family for good.
20:14 <Dunc> I still think may Kol had some siblings or an aunt or something
20:14 <Trip> Rodian, Mon Cal
20:14 <Dunc> Without the 'Skywalker' name.
20:14 <Ulicus> I agree with Dunc
20:14 <LordHydronium> Nowis: Needs the Starkiller Kid.
20:14 <Ulicus> Well, I think he had some WITH the Skywalker name too
20:15 <LtNOWIS> Good point
20:15 <Trip> Does Cade know who his momma is?
20:15 <Dunc> well yeah.
20:15 <Albireo> Probably not.
20:15 <Typo> If not, the next issue would be an odd intro.
20:15 <Dunc> We don't know.
20:15 <Trip> It's ambiguous, now, when she took off.
20:15 <Ulicus> I can't see why he wouldn't know
20:15 <Trip> Initially she left when he was a newborn.
20:15 <Ulicus> its not like Kol would pretend he didn't have one
20:15 <LordHydronium> "There was no mother."
20:16 <Trip> The latest has her showing a holo of holding him as an infant.
20:16 <Albireo> Kol probably just told him some old recycled Ben Kenobi lies.
20:16 <Trip> So, ?
20:16 <Trip> Art error?
20:16 <Typo> "You see, when a daddy wants a kid very much, he finds him in a back ally and takes him home!"
20:16 <LordHydronium> "I conceived him, er, someone gave birth to him...I can't explain what happened."
20:16 <Ulicus> "the stalk carried him, I raised him, I didn't give birth"
20:16 * Ulicus imagines Cade with a feather held by his nose
20:16 <Trip> Maybe he told him Wolf was his mother. :P
20:17 <LordHydronium> Clearly the work of Plagueis from beyond the grave. His new power, Force Womb.
20:17 <Typo> That'd be believeable, as much as Wolf coddles him.
20:17 <dgxxx> ok gotta run
20:17 <dgxxx> night all!
20:17 * Horsey_Away is now known as Horsey
20:17 <LordHydronium> Later.
20:17 <Albireo> Why did the quality of conversation fall with the change of a continent?
20:17 <Typo> Night.
20:17 * dgxxx has quit IRC
20:17 <Typo> We're goofy?
20:18 <Ulicus> the quality wasn't exactly stellar in the Eurochat
20:18 <Dunc> Albireo obviously wasn't here for the Sacrifice chat.
20:18 <Horsey> I wasn't around to moderate what y'all were talking about
20:18 <Trip> Ooh, that's it.
20:18 <Horsey> I'm back, so that'll change
20:18 * Horsey looks stern
20:18 <Typo> YEah, because Dunc doesn't try that too.
20:18 <Trip> He had Nei Rin grown Cade for him.
20:18 <Trip> *grow
20:18 <Trip> Gah
20:18 <Ulicus> Cade is a vongspore
20:19 <Ulicus> he originated as a spike on kol's forehead
20:19 <Ulicus> genius.
20:19 <Trip> CoralCade
20:19 <Albireo> See what I meant?
20:20 <Trip> Wake tiki up
20:20 <Typo> No, I don't.
20:20 <Ulicus> Oh yea
20:20 <Ulicus> I need to tell everyone who doesn't know the mission
20:20 <Trip> She's bound to raise conversational quality
20:20 <Ulicus> The Mission: Get tiki into Star Wars canon
20:20 <Ulicus> preferably as a droid with something to do with the holonet - but any reference will do
20:20 <Trip> As a girl droid.
20:20 <Dunc> Well Al, you could always attempt to change the topic... Instead of bitching about it
20:21 <Ulicus> as a guri type droid?
20:21 <Dunc> NO
20:21 <Trip> Yes.
20:21 <Trip> As a girl /sex/ droid.
20:21 <Dunc> Tiki is not a sex droid!
20:21 <Ulicus> that'd please jello I imagine
20:21 <Trip> That an Imperial aristocrat keeps in his cupboard. :D
20:21 <Jello> Do not speak My name in vain.
20:21 <Typo> What exactly are we supposed to chat about, beyond Legacy in general?
20:21 <Dunc> heh
20:21 <Ulicus> how was that in vain?
20:21 <Typo> There's been no recent release.
20:21 <Ulicus> Everything
20:22 <Jello> It was gratuitous and therefore vain.
20:22 <Typo> Help me Dunc, you're my only hope.
20:22 <Dunc> Okay, okay
20:22 <Trip> Dunc, topic!
20:22 <Dunc> What's your favorite part of Legacy?
20:22 <Trip> Topic now!
20:22 <Trip> Okay.
20:22 <sabarte> The Moffs
20:22 <Typo> Characters.
20:22 <Horsey> Cade's behind!
20:22 <Jello> Dynasty.
20:22 <Ulicus> ...
20:22 <Trip> Characters, yes.
20:22 * Dunc changes topic to 'Legacy Chat: What do you like best about it?.'
20:22 <Horsey> sorry dunc
20:22 <RF> ...
20:22 <Horsey> It got them to shut up though
20:22 <Trip> I cannot choose which.
20:22 <Horsey> :D
20:22 * Dunc sighs
20:23 <Typo> I think we've seen one of the better casts in SW at the moment in Legacy.
20:23 <Ulicus> I like the New Galactic Empire
20:23 <Trip> Well, Roan, obvoiusly.
20:23 <Trip> But the rest are great as well.
20:23 <Jello> Second*
20:23 <Ulicus> and I like Cade and his crew as bounty hunters. I hope they can get back to that at some point
20:23 <Dunc> I like that it's kind of a 'Rocks fall, everyone dies' reboot on the EU as a whole.
20:23 <Horsey> My favorite part is that Cade isn't a straight laced, perfect Jedi
20:23 <Trip> I like that it's a reboot without the reboot.
20:23 <Dunc> WITHOUT wiping out the previous canon
20:23 <Jello> So in other words, he's like all the other Jedi.
20:24 <Trip> Exactly.
20:24 <Trip> @ dunc
20:24 <Typo> I agree, Horsey, but I also like the straight laced Jedi, as well.
20:24 <Trip> You've got Shado for that.
20:24 <Typo> Wolf and Shado Vao are both awesome.
20:24 <Ulicus> I like that it meant Blackman couldn't butcher a "the last Skywalker" concept in game form
20:24 <Horsey> yes they are
20:24 <Typo> And K'kruhk is cool too, of course.
20:24 <Havac> Wolf and Shado are bloody awesome.
20:24 <LordHydronium> I like seeing the broad scope of where the galaxy is in this time frame.
20:24 <Trip> Wolf's kind of iffy for me.
20:24 <Trip> I dunno why.
20:24 <Trip> But Shado is awesome.
20:24 <Typo> I like one arm.
20:24 <LordHydronium> All these glimpses of all sorts of aspects.
20:24 <sabarte> Krukh needs to die
20:24 <Trip> "If Cade should go dark..."
20:24 <Trip> "I'll kill him.
20:25 <Havac> Wolf is like Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan crossed.
20:25 <Trip> " :|
20:25 <Havac> Shado is just badass.
20:25 <Typo> On the flip side, I also like Nihl.
20:25 <Havac> "I'll hunt the Sith."
20:25 <Jello> I'd like to see more of the wider galaxy.
20:25 <Trip> The Sith are all great.
20:25 <LordHydronium> That was probably the most incoherent thing I've said in a while.
20:25 <Jello> And by that, I mean the Core.
20:25 <Typo> Talon I've grown tired of, already, but I enjoy Nihl a great deal.
20:25 <Jello> More regular people.
20:25 <LordHydronium> What Jello said. But more than the Core. :P
20:25 <Ulicus> THe Sith are great except for the dire names
20:25 <Jello> An idea of how they feel.
20:25 * Rohniss has joined #EU
20:25 * ChanServ sets mode: +o Rohniss
20:26 <Ulicus> and... well, I'm not a fan of them all being redtats.
20:26 <Jello> We still don't know what the average person thinks of the whole usurpation deal.
20:26 <Trip> I like how everyone figured Nihl was angling for a takeover.
20:26 <Trip> And it turns out he just wuvs Krayt.
20:26 <sabarte> I dunno if that'll last :P
20:26 <Typo> I still think he's angling for a take over.
20:26 <Trip> Eventually, sure.
20:26 <sabarte> I agree with Typo. He feels marginalized
20:26 <Trip> He'll get all angsty and cut himself.
20:26 <Dunc> He's biding his time.
20:26 <sabarte> Also, Talon's stupid :P
20:26 <Trip> And ask why Krayt doesn't love him like the others.
20:26 <Ulicus> I think... Cade and Talon are going to hook up
20:27 <Jello> I thought the good happy new Sith didn't do that anymore.
20:27 * Dunc snorts
20:27 <Trip> And then he'll get all cold and distant.
20:27 <Ulicus> (i've said that in the eurochat already)
20:27 <Trip> And be like, "well fine."
20:27 <Dunc> fanboy just wants a Talon sex scene
20:27 <Trip> "I'm gonna take what's mine!"
20:27 <Ulicus> not so
20:27 <RF> No.
20:27 <Jello> I want to see Talon redeemed
20:27 <Jello> and become a Jedi nun
20:27 <RF> Yes.
20:27 <Jello> wearing actual clothes
20:27 <Typo> I want her to die.
20:27 <RF> Exactly.
20:27 <Jello> That would be hilarious.
20:27 <Dunc> I find Talon completely uninteresting.
20:27 <Trip> Yes!
20:27 <RF> It'd be kriffing unexpected.
20:27 <Trip> @ Jello
20:27 <Typo> So do I.
20:27 <Ulicus> She could become Darth Clotheson
20:27 <Dunc> She looks cool, but... that's it.
20:27 <LordHydronium> Talon needs to wear a decent outfit. In general.
20:27 <Jello> Yes!
20:27 <Trip> Talon must be approached with hilarity.
20:27 <Havac> I want Talon to die. Just die.
20:27 <Jello> She becomes the new Jocasta Nu
20:28 <Havac> Or to marry Shado, as predicted by Cade.
20:28 <RF> Ew...
20:28 <Jello> a nun librarian lady
20:28 <Trip> Uh no you din'!
20:28 <Dunc> Okay, you're getting wacky again
20:28 <LordHydronium> Their kids would be purple!
20:28 <Dunc> What issue was the first that really clicked for you?
20:28 <Ulicus> Sweet!
20:28 <Jello> #2
20:28 <Havac> 0.
20:28 * Dunc changes topic to 'Legacy Chat: What issue was the first that really clicked for you?.'
20:28 <Trip> #11
20:28 <Jello> I didn't like 0 at all
20:28 <Jello> and detested the first one
20:28 <Dunc> Mine was 9 or 10.
20:28 <LordHydronium> 7 was where I truly hopped onboard.
20:28 <Dunc> The one where we got Morrigan's backstory
20:29 <Trip> Actually, I think it was the cover for #13.
20:29 * Dunc is a sucker for Skywalker dynasty crap.
20:29 <Havac> I was sold before I ever picked an issue up . . . and reading Broken blew my mind.
20:29 <LordHydronium> After I read the whole Broken arc in order.
20:29 * Kypt has joined #EU
20:29 <Typo> I think I was already 'clicked' in by 4. Even as a filler, it seemd like things were just fitting together well.
20:29 <Trip> I remember asking my sister, "do we love Roan?"
20:29 <LordHydronium> Rather, especially after.
20:29 <Trip> And the answer was yes, yes we do.
20:29 <RF> Why "we"?
20:29 <LordHydronium> You and your sister have a group mind? ;)
20:29 <RF> Yeah...
20:29 <Havac> JOINERS!
20:29 <Trip> UnuTrip
20:30 <RF> Hold the bughugging jokes.
20:30 <Jello> You know.
20:30 <Dunc> I was reading up to that point, but I wasn't particularly invested
20:30 <Jello> I still have never read #4
20:30 <Dunc> It seemed a lot of fanboy wish fufillment before that
20:30 <Dunc> You're not missing much
20:30 <Jello> That's what I thought in the original announcement.
20:30 <RF> Really, I think that's the big danger to Legacy.
20:30 <RF> Fanservice.
20:30 <Jello> When it was first announced I thought Legacy was the biggest load of crap ever.
20:30 <Havac> HAT!
20:30 <Jello> Thankfully it wasn't.
20:30 <RF> We've already seen a bit of it with K'kruhky.
20:30 <Trip> Krukhie is my only concern in that department.
20:30 <Jello> But yes, it still has a good deal of fanservice.
20:30 <Typo> Agreed.
20:31 <Albireo> Too much of it.
20:31 <Jello> Now, the good kind of fanservice would be fixing continuity holes.
20:31 <sabarte> Krukh, as I said, needs to die :P
20:31 <Dunc> That's the biggest danger for DH as a whole
20:31 <Typo> But I think I'll be less meh about K'kruhk if he shows in LotF.
20:31 <Dunc> *cancelling Tales*
20:31 <Jello> I wish they'd do more of *that* kind of fanservice.
20:31 <Jello> Rather than, you know, random Hat/Kyle/Waru type fanservice.
20:31 <Jello> Which we don't need.
20:31 <Trip> Yeah.
20:31 <RF> Well, fanservice usually refers to just the gratuitous stuff.
20:31 <Havac> K'Kruhk, bot be fair, makes sense.
20:31 <Jello> Yes, but we're kind of a small demographic though.
20:31 <Albireo> How?
20:31 <RF> Fixing continuity is just plain good business.
20:31 <Havac> John and Jan don't do that level of stuff just for the hell of it.
20:31 <Jello> So continuity stuff is also gratuitous... in a sense.
20:31 <Jello> You know?
20:31 <LordHydronium> Yeah, I have no problem with stuff that serves the story and pleases fans.
20:31 <RF> :p
20:32 <Trip> Hav, I still can't figure Krukhie.
20:32 <Jello> for example, making a Legacy handbook with a family tree would be *good* fanservice
20:32 <Trip> I'm still witholding judgement, but it's hard.
20:32 <Havac> I figure it has to come into play later.
20:32 <Typo> Yeah, K'kruhk was hinted to be around way back in the NEC.
20:32 <Albireo> K'Kruhk is there because A'Sharad is there.
20:33 <Trip> A'Sharad... now him, I don't mind.
20:33 <Jello> Artoo.
20:33 <Jello> Was he fanservice?
20:33 <Trip> Especially since it's not FANSERVICE! in the style that Krukhie seems.
20:33 <Albireo> Sure.
20:33 <Trip> No, Artoo was logical.
20:33 <Ulicus> Artoo being in was brilliant.
20:33 <LordHydronium> Artoo is a fixture of Star Wars.
20:33 <Typo> Right.
20:33 <Trip> I'm still holding out hope that Threepio's with the Fels...
20:33 <Typo> And they did well by setting him only in the background.
20:33 <Dunc> K'kruhk didn't bother me
20:33 <Trip> Poor guy deserves it.
20:34 <Havac> If Artoo is around, Threepio is around.
20:34 <sabarte> Krukh didn't bother me until we got Hett
20:34 <Dunc> Threepio, always the mindwipee, never the mindwiper.
20:34 <sabarte> Now he bothers me a lot
20:34 <Albireo> I think that C3P0 is the Chewbacca of Legacy.
20:34 <Ulicus> ...
20:34 <Dunc> Sabs: Maybe it's our different foci?
20:34 <Albireo> At some issue they will show us it's severed head.
20:34 <LordHydronium> sab: See, that's funny, I think Hett justifies K'Kruhk.
20:34 <Trip> I'm just bummered he isn't Krayt. :P
20:34 <LordHydronium> Who, Threepio?
20:34 <Dunc> I learned about K'kruhk from TFN. I never actually saw him in anything until Legacy
20:34 <Trip> Yeah.
20:35 <Typo> Aww.
20:35 <Typo> I saw K'kruhk long before, but I'm shocked he's lived that long.
20:35 <Trip> I've always wanted Threepio to grow a pair and get revenge on the Solos.
20:35 <Jello> I remember him from the CW cartoons
20:35 <Typo> Dude's died, what, three, four times?
20:35 <Dunc> oh, that too
20:35 <LordHydronium> "Begging your pardon, Master Fel, but might I usurp your throne?"
20:35 <Jello> I was sad that he serviced.
20:35 <Jello> *survived
20:35 <Dunc> But I didn't like, know his name or anything
20:35 <Jello> me neither
20:36 <Trip> I figure next best thing is he gets to hang out with genuine royalty.
20:36 <Trip> That have genuine class.
20:36 <Havac> I want the Noghri to get some bloody respect.
20:36 <Trip> Threepio'd shit his little robot pants if he got to serve an Emperor and his court.
20:36 <Albireo> Genuine royalty? The Fels?
20:36 <Havac> Yes.
20:36 <Albireo> Corellian farmers.
20:36 <Trip> Pssh... yah.
20:36 <Trip> Not anymore, they're not.
20:36 * Horsey sets mode: +v Kypt
20:36 <Trip> Plus, Alderaanian royalty...
20:37 <Horsey> sorry, Kypt
20:37 <Kypt> Most Kings ancestors were probably farmers or whatever
20:37 <Horsey> I dunno why none of the other 8 ops didn't voice you
20:37 <Trip> And Palpatine's right hand...
20:37 <Kypt> np
20:37 <Kypt> You're the only one who cares :)
20:37 <Trip> And Corellian royalty...
20:37 <Dunc> Famous flying ace!
20:37 <Typo> Horsey doesn't care.
20:37 * Horsey hugs Kypt
20:37 <Havac> Baron of the Empire!
20:37 <Typo> She left me voiceless for three quarters of a chat, once.
20:37 <Albireo> Traitor to the Empire.
20:37 <Horsey> I did not!
20:37 <Typo> You did too!
20:37 <Havac> The Empire betrayed Fel.
20:38 <Trip> You shut your mouth, Albireo. :|
20:38 <Trip> :P
20:38 <Havac> Isard is not the Empire.
20:38 <Trip> I've just finished getting over that.
20:38 <Typo> The Empire died with the Emperor.
20:38 <Trip> Don't go and make me doubt again.
20:38 <Jello> Albireo, please do not presume to speak on behalf of the Empire.
20:38 <Jello> Thank you.
20:38 <LordHydronium> It was weird, but issue 13 was the first moment when I felt "He's the freaking EMPEROR."
20:38 <Trip> Yes.
20:38 <LordHydronium> I mean, it registered intellectually before.
20:38 <Trip> Awesome issue.
20:38 <Jello> When he was dressing down the IK?
20:38 <LordHydronium> But that was the first time it really hit.
20:38 <Trip> Made better by Colin's art.
20:38 <Trip> #8, Jello.
20:39 <Havac> He's the first Emperor since Palpatine, OOU.
20:39 <Jello> Ah.
20:39 <Jello> That's right.
20:39 <Jello> 13 was the fight.
20:39 <Albireo> To the Empire now, Soontir is just an old pilot ace from decades past who betrayed the Empire and went to live with some blueskinned Aliens.
20:39 <Trip> Yeah.
20:39 <Jello> What about 13 made you see him as "the emperor" ?
20:39 <LordHydronium> The execution of the ship's crew.
20:39 <LordHydronium> It felt very...Imperial.
20:39 <Jello> Interesting.
20:39 <Jello> So he had to be ruthless, then?
20:39 <Trip> Actually, #13 is where I first saw him as Jedi-Emperor.
20:40 <LordHydronium> Ruthless, yes.
20:40 <Trip> He was Emperor from #3, for me.
20:40 <Jello> When he retook Bastion?
20:40 <Jello> Same here.
20:40 <Trip> Yeah.
20:40 <Jello> I liked how the stormies knelt.
20:40 <Trip> Yep
20:40 <Jello> More importantly, I like how he didn't hide behind his guards.
20:40 <Albireo> What happened to the nice and caring Empire that Roan Fel supposedly represents?
20:40 <Jello> It never was nice and caring.
20:40 <Jello> That was an illusion given from the promo material.
20:40 <Jello> People got upset about the "fanboy emperor" but he never was such.
20:41 <Albireo> Propaganda and apologists say otherwise.
20:41 <Ulicus> No they don't
20:41 <Jello> I am the Imperial apologist par excellence.
20:41 <Ulicus> I was just about to say that on your behalf :P
20:41 <Trip> Fel's Empire has always been pragmatic, efficient, ruthless.
20:41 <Trip> Just not evil or corrupt.
20:41 <Albireo> *Rolls eyes*
20:41 <Trip> But not evil =/= Fuzzy and Happy.
20:41 <Albireo> Ruthless equals Evil.
20:42 <Ulicus> Since when?
20:42 <Kypt> Wrong
20:42 <LordHydronium> No it doesn't.
20:42 <Trip> Absolutley not.
20:42 <Albireo> Yes it does.
20:42 * Dunc changes topic to 'Legacy Chat: The Empire.'
20:42 <Albireo> Especially for a Force user like Fell.
20:42 <Albireo> People have fallen to the Dark Side for lesser things than he has done.
20:43 <Jello> There's a difference between ruthlessness and expediency.
20:43 <Jello> Do not confuse the two.
20:43 <Albireo> Ruthless Force User = Darksider.
20:43 <Trip> Nope.
20:44 <Trip> Never has been that.
20:44 <Typo> Really?
20:44 <Albireo> If Jacen in LotF would do a similar act, how many would be ready to defend him like this?
20:44 <Kypt> That's only from the point of view of the Jedi
20:44 <Trip> The Jedi have been fairly ruthless in the past.
20:44 <Typo> So Mace was a darksider?
20:44 <LordHydronium> The dark side is about fear, anger, and hate.
20:44 <Trip> They've never gone Darkside as a whole.
20:44 <LordHydronium> How much mercy one exhibits has nothing to do with it.
20:44 <Typo> Because I've found myself going "Damn that was ruthless" when it comes to Mace, quite often.
20:44 <Albireo> Protestant view.
20:44 <Jello> The Jedi are tremendously ruthless.
20:44 <Jello> "I'm not here to free slaves"
20:45 <Jello> "Forget your mother and emotions"
20:45 <Albireo> Examples?
20:45 <Trip> They exterminated the Sith.
20:45 <Trip> All of them.
20:45 <Trip> The entire species.
20:45 <Trip> They slagged planets from orbit on multiple occasions to eliminate small groups of darksiders.
20:45 <Trip> They've got a history of tracking down and persecuting heretics.
20:45 <Albireo> Except that they didn't. And we do not know who did the actual genocide, the Jedi or normal Republic troops.
20:46 <Albireo> But there were Sith survivors.
20:46 <Trip> Yoda, in fact, led a campaign against Potentium heretics.
20:46 <Jello> Yes, and there are still Jews.
20:46 <Albireo> Peaceful campaign.
20:46 <Typo> Even if they didn't actually do the genocide, they sure didn't try to stop it.
20:46 <Jello> Guess Hitler isn't a genocidal maniac.
20:46 <Jello> Whooo, Godwin!
20:46 <Albireo> Do we know that?
20:46 <Jello> Argument from ignorance, Albireo.
20:47 <Albireo> Oh, the arrogance!
20:47 <Dunc> Okay, kids
20:47 <sabarte> Yeah, this is not useful here.
20:47 <Typo> Agreed.
20:47 <Dunc> New topic? It's someone else's turn
20:47 <Typo> Is Morrigan for real?
20:47 <sabarte> Vector?
20:47 * sabarte sighs.
20:48 * sabarte -dislikes- Morrigan.
20:48 <Dunc> Morrigan...
20:48 <Jello> High five!
20:48 <Havac> Morrigan? I'm meh on her, so far.
20:48 <Dunc> We don't really know enough about Vector yet. :(
20:48 <LordHydronium> Morrigan has awesome specs. B)
20:48 <Horsey> what do you mean by 'for read'?
20:48 <Dunc> I like her as a character.
20:48 <Typo> Is she really out to help Cade, out to help Calixte, or out to help herself?
20:48 <Havac> I haven't read the issues with her, but her role so far hasn't grabbed me.
20:48 <Dunc> But I wish they'd picked a less obvious name
20:48 <Albireo> She is a stereotypical character, but as stereotypical characters go, pretty good.
20:49 <sabarte> She looks too young
20:49 * Jello changes topic to 'Legacy chat: Morrigan.'
20:49 <Havac> I think it would be interesting if we had a Skywalker with an amoral mom.
20:49 <Havac> A little blot on the family tree.
20:49 <Dunc> She does look too young
20:49 <Typo> I'm hoping that we do have one that is amoral.
20:49 <Havac> But, I just don't think Kol's judgment would be that poor.
20:49 <Dunc> Those outfits... again the fanservice
20:49 <Albireo> I think she is both out to help Cade and readyto help Calixte as long as that doesn't hurt Cade.
20:49 <sabarte> and augh, anime hair.
20:49 <Typo> Why so loyal to Calixte, though?
20:49 * sabarte is still rooting for Callixte
20:49 <Horsey> we can't judge age on pictures with SW, we've known this for awhile now
20:50 <Havac> Why would anyone be loyal to Calixte?
20:50 <sabarte> Because Callixte is awesome! :P
20:50 <Trip> She actually looks her age in the most recent.
20:50 <Jello> If by awesome you mean traitorous whore, then yes, she's awesome.
20:50 <Albireo> She looks more like her age in the latest issue. And the clothes come with the job. Distract the poor, stupid men etc.
20:50 <Trip> Looks like a forty-fifty-something who refuses to age gracrefully. :P
20:50 * Dunc changes topic to 'Legacy chat: Imperial lasies: Callixte, Morrigan, etc..'
20:50 * sabarte :ps at Jello
20:51 <Albireo> She has probably common past with Calixte. Perhaps she owes Calixte something, like her life.
20:51 <sabarte> Maybe Callixte is also her mom :P
20:51 * sabarte ducks
20:51 <Dunc> I'm intrigued by the whole retirement thing
20:51 * Havac changes topic to 'Legacy chat: Imperial ladies: Calixte, Morrigan, etc. | Dunc's spelling sucks..'
20:51 <Trip> Nyna and Morlish continue to be hilarious.
20:51 <Dunc> :P
20:51 <Albireo> Too old?
20:51 <LordHydronium> sab: That would mean we can't have Cade with a Gunn.
20:51 <Dunc> Morlish is such an ass.
20:51 <sabarte> Yeah, Nyna, Morlish, and the other moffs are my favorite...
20:51 <LordHydronium> (To borrow Jello's phrase)
20:51 <Albireo> Why not?
20:51 <Trip> He's a hilarous ass.
20:52 <RF> He likes to hold Mofferences... in his pants.
20:52 <Trip> Even last issue, with barely three panels.
20:52 <Havac> The funniest thing about Veed is Chuck's man-crush on him.
20:52 <Trip> That frame of him rolling back over and grumbling to himself still has me amused.
20:52 <Trip> And his little tatoo... awwwww
20:52 <Typo> I don't think he's actually getting any.
20:52 <Jello> C19 still likes him?
20:53 <Typo> He's one of those guys that boasts about all of his 'exploits', but doesn't have any.
20:53 <Typo> He probably gets shut down like that often.
20:53 <Havac> I still want to know what ship that tattoo is for.
20:53 <Trip> Nyna just 'lets' him go down on her.
20:53 <Jello> The question is then.
20:53 <Jello> How did he become a moff and "grand admiral" ?
20:53 <Jello> One would imagine that there is some requisite amount of talent that's commensurate with the job, yes?
20:53 <Typo> Yeah, he's holding two completely seperate positions.
20:54 <LordHydronium> Political appointment, like Grant and Il-Raz?
20:54 <LordHydronium> Oh, you mean how'd he become both.
20:54 <Horsey> not really Jello, if Nyna is the one pulling the strings
20:54 <Havac> He seems militarily competent, just not politically intelligent.
20:54 <LordHydronium> Oh, you didn't mean that.
20:54 <Jello> The Fels don't seem to encourage bootlicking.
20:54 <Horsey> sometimes its better to be the one behind the scenes and have a puppet
20:54 <Albireo> Veed might just "get" Callixte, but what about Roan? When is the last time he had female company in his imperial bed? Has he problems in that department?
20:54 <Trip> I'm thinking maybe Grand Admiral was made the same post as High Moff after Pelly croaked and Soontir took the throne.
20:54 <Jello> Yes, but why would she want him?
20:54 <Horsey> because he's controllable
20:55 <Horsey> She wants to be in charge, but can't be the front runner
20:55 <Dunc> Al: that's another thing
20:55 <Horsey> for a variety of sexist reasons
20:55 <Jello> Seems too convenient after the fact, though.
20:55 <Trip> Morlish = Gnaeus
20:55 <Dunc> Who/where is Sia's mother?
20:55 <Dunc> I wants to know!
20:55 <Kypt> Especialy if the moffs are uncomfortable with Sia inheriting
20:55 <Trip> Sia, like all disney princess, does not have a mother.
20:55 <Jello> Pompey was better with the women.
20:55 <Horsey> I do too, dunc!
20:55 <Jello> I want to know why they don't even mention her
20:55 <Trip> *princesses
20:55 <Typo> lol. Morrigan should be Sia's mom.
20:55 <Havac> I want to know the Imperial Descent too.
20:55 <Jello> i.e. "You're like your mother" or "I miss your mother"
20:55 <Horsey> I thought about that Typo
20:55 <Jello> But there's not even the vaguest reference.
20:56 <Jello> oh!!!
20:56 <LordHydronium> Hey, we've learned Cade's and Gunn's, two with originally unmentioned mums. I suspect Sia's is coming at some point.
20:56 <Trip> We haven't even seen Roan and Sia in the same room yet, to be fair.
20:56 <Jello> Sia sprung fully armed from Roan's head.
20:56 <Kypt> Maybe she's in disgrace?
20:56 <Jello> :-)
20:56 <LordHydronium> Roan...is Sia! O_O
20:56 <LordHydronium> Oh, that's not what you meant. :P
20:56 <Trip> There's been very little Daddy/Sia time.
20:56 <Havac> Mohrgan was a nice touch. We need more of the Imperial family.
20:56 <Horsey> uh Trip there is a war going on
20:56 <Jello> Technically a cousin would not be a member of the Imperial Family.
20:56 <Kypt> Was Mohrgan a Brother or cousin?
20:56 <Dunc> Also, that whole thing from #0 with the Moffs not approving of Sia as heir?
20:56 <Kypt> nm
20:56 <LordHydronium> Cousin.
20:57 <Trip> Horsey, hm?
20:57 <Albireo> We don't know the rules of the Fel dynasty in who is part of the Imperial family.
20:57 <Kypt> So maybe Roans got an aunt or uncle around somewhere
20:57 <Horsey> you said there's very little Daddy/Sia time. Why would there be in the middle of a fight?
20:57 <Trip> There wouldn't...
20:57 <Havac> Sia actually hasn't gotten a ton of face time -- she may not be as important a character, overall, as was assumed.
20:57 <Jello> I disagree.
20:57 <LordHydronium> Of couse you do. :P
20:57 <Jello> Remember Cade's comment about her?
20:57 <LordHydronium> *course
20:57 <Dunc> Hopefully we get a Sia plot soon. :P
20:57 <Jello> Not until after this arc is over, at least.
20:57 <Trip> There just hasn't been anywhere for her to logically appear yet.
20:58 <Jello> Yes, that's what Randy said, IIRC.
20:58 <Trip> I'd rather have to wait then have her rescue Cade or something silly.
20:58 <Havac> Sia is probably the Legacy main character I'm least interested in.
20:58 <Albireo> Marasiah's mother probably will have some function. I expect her to have been a Hapan princess.
20:58 <Jello> why Hapan?
20:58 <Trip> Tagge, dammit.
20:58 <Havac> No, a Pallopides.
20:58 <Trip> Or that, sure.
20:59 <Albireo> Marasiah has potential.
20:59 <Jello> I'd be fine for her to be an "invented" noble rather than a Hapan. I don't like how the Hapans are the filler royalty of SW.
20:59 <LordHydronium> Havac took mine. :P
20:59 <Trip> Although I'd rather Roan's momma be a pallopides.
20:59 <Jello> Whenever someone needs a royal, it's always a Hapan.
20:59 <Havac> And I want Ken Palpatine to show up *somewhere*.
20:59 <Jello> But yes, this would be an example of "good" fanservice.
20:59 <Havac> We need him resolved.
20:59 <Trip> Hapans are a bunch of loser hick pirate inbreds.
20:59 <LordHydronium> Dammit, he took that too! :P
20:59 <Typo> They have so many nobles, do they even have regular people there?
20:59 <Jello> A Tagge or Pallopides, that is.
20:59 <LordHydronium> Stop stealing ideas from my head, Havac!
20:59 <Dunc> I always though a Hapan husband would be a good solution for the Sia thing
20:59 <Jello> Why?
20:59 <Jello> :-p
20:59 <Albireo> Why Hapan? To bring all the Skywalker lineages together.
21:00 <Typo> Ewwwww.
21:00 <Dunc> He wouldn't be as power hungry + alliance with an independent power
21:00 <Jello> If Allana inherits.
21:00 <Dunc> Assuming Hapes is still indy
21:00 <Trip> They're "neutral"
21:00 <Albireo> Sia would be a descendant of both Solo kids and would get together with Cade.
21:00 <LordHydronium> It was neutral during the war.
21:00 <LordHydronium> Or is neutral, yeah.
21:00 <Jello> Since that's not resolved, it wouldn't happen any time soon because of their "no LotF stuff" rule.
21:00 <Dunc> Yeah
21:01 <Trip> Which makes me think...
21:01 <Trip> What of the Chiss?
21:01 <Albireo> And with Ossus only option where Cade could have ran.
21:01 <Dunc> We'll learn nothing until after LOTF
21:01 <Jello> That's why I'd prefer some character unaffliated with LotF events. That way we'd be able to get something, at least on a mom.
21:01 <LordHydronium> Should that be our next topic? Legacy/LotF and other Del Rey stuff?
21:01 <Jello> The ancestry though, heh, we're not getting that for a looooong time.
21:01 <Jello> :-(
21:01 <Trip> Next summer.
21:01 <Trip> Not too far off.
21:01 <Dunc> Hydro - might be best to save that for later
21:01 <Jello> That's a long time.
21:01 <Albireo> There is no need to reveal the background of mother until after LotF.
21:01 <Horsey> There's a Chiss moff
21:02 <Trip> Which implies the Chiss are part of the Empire.
21:02 <Trip> Except it's also implied that they're independent.
21:02 <Dunc> Some of them, at least
21:02 <LordHydronium> The Chiss Moff is awesome.
21:02 <Havac> Yet the Ascendancy still exists . . .
21:02 <Trip> I'm hoping self-ruling fiefdom.
21:02 <LordHydronium> He's all deceptive and shit.
21:02 <Havac> We need some kind of resolution of the EOTH, dammit.
21:02 <Jello> simple solution to the Chiss.
21:02 <Albireo> If they are, they would still be very autonomous part of the Empire based on the talk the Moffs had.
21:02 <Trip> Basically, I just really hope Soontir dragged those blue losers into the Empire
21:02 <Jello> He'd be like a French congressman.
21:03 <Jello> He's an Imperial citizen, but people would naturally ask him what "his people" are doing.
21:03 <Albireo> This Chiss could well represent E.
21:03 <Albireo> *EotH*
21:03 <Kypt> Isn't the whole Fel family in disgrace with the Chiss though, or is it just Jag?
21:03 <Havac> We shouldn't want anything in the Empire resembling the French, thanks.
21:03 <Typo> The whole Fel family is out, at the moment.
21:03 <Trip> The whole family, although Jag is the only one exiled.
21:03 <Typo> Or so Jag says.
21:03 <LordHydronium> I wonder where the IKs are/were headquartered.
21:03 <Trip> The Fel family is just in disgrace.
21:03 <Albireo> Whole family.
21:04 <Albireo> Racist.
21:04 <LordHydronium> Do they have their own Jedi-style order, are they just a part of the Imperial military, what?
21:04 <Jello> Hav - too late.
21:04 <Trip> I wonder how many IKs there are.
21:04 <Jello> There's a First and Second Empire.
21:04 * Dunc changes topic to 'Legacy chat: Imperial Knights.'
21:04 <Trip> I'm hoping more than 12.
21:04 <Horsey> I love the Imperial Knights
21:04 <Albireo> Half a dozen alive, probably.
21:04 <Havac> It'd be awesome if the IKs had their own olds-school-Empire-style fortress world.
21:04 <Kypt> They seem to be more of a personal guard than an order though
21:04 <Trip> I'd like them more if Antares and Ganner weren't the two stooges. :P
21:04 <Horsey> I like the idea of them, I can't wait to read more about Ganner and Antares
21:04 <Jello> They could have that one world.
21:04 <Dunc> I think it's most likely they are their own complete order, without military rank
21:04 <Havac> But as Randy's established there are only about a dozen -- that's not that likely.
21:04 <Typo> They need a third stooge.
21:05 <LordHydronium> Bah, you only dislike Ganner by association.
21:05 <Dunc> A dozen *now*
21:05 <Albireo> Ganner is fated to have a sorry end.
21:05 <Trip> He didn't establish that, did he?
21:05 <Jello> Yinchorr.
21:05 <Jello> That would be fine.
21:05 <LordHydronium> Save your disdain for Antares. :P
21:05 <Trip> Just said that was originally how many there are.
21:05 <Jello> Randy has?
21:05 <Jello> When?
21:05 <Dunc> Has he?
21:05 <Havac> Before the usurpation.
21:05 <Albireo> Yes.
21:05 <Dunc> huh
21:05 <Jello> When, where, and in what context?
21:05 <Havac> He's said that the ones we've seen may be the only ones.
21:05 <Jello> Ah.
21:05 <Trip> No, no, by "originally" I mean "back when they were planning."
21:05 <Havac> DH boards.
21:05 <Trip> It might not still be like that.
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21:06 <Albireo> I hope it is.
21:06 <Jello> Well, that doesn't tell us much.
21:06 <Jello> That's typical obfuscation.
21:06 <Trip> He was speculating, basically, based on the original concept.
21:06 <Jello> I wouldn't set much store by it.
21:06 * Horsey sets mode: +v Broox_
21:06 <Trip> We still have no idea what John now has planned.
21:06 <Trip> Jello-- A'Sharad and Company have Yinchorr.
21:06 <Albireo> There more of them there is, the harder it is to get rid of them.
21:06 <Jello> source?
21:06 <Trip> #4
21:07 <Jello> Dammit.
21:07 <Trip> :D
21:07 <Jello> I need to get that one.
21:07 <Jello> I can't stand the name of the issue.
21:07 <Kypt> Doesn't mean they didn't have it before the usurption
21:07 <Trip> It'll be in the next TPB
21:07 <Kypt> The IK's
21:07 <LordHydronium> Which has my favorite Hughes cover.
21:07 <Albireo> I like it: All Fel loyalists died. A happy ending.
21:07 * Trip squints at Albireo
21:08 <Trip> Rouge??
21:08 <Trip> :P
21:08 <Albireo> Who?
21:08 <Havac> You're stealing his lines.
21:08 <Albireo> I am?
21:09 <Albireo> Time to be more original then...
21:09 <Trip> He's the Lit board's resident Fel-detractor. :P
21:09 <Albireo> So no Fel bashing?
21:09 <Horsey> C19 isn't a fan of Fel either though
21:09 <Albireo> What else?
21:09 <Trip> No, Fel bashing is fine.
21:09 <Trip> You just reminded me of him.
21:10 <Albireo> That doesn't sound good.
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21:10 <Typo> Just ignore Trip, he doesn't know anything.
21:10 <Trip> It was a joke... I regularly accuse people of being socks.
21:11 <LordHydronium> Uh-oh.
21:11 <Trip> Didn't mean anything by it. :P
21:11 <LordHydronium> Trip killed the chat.
21:11 <Horsey> good job, Trip, you killed the chat
21:11 * Horsey squints at Trip
21:11 <Horsey> dgx?
21:12 <Trip> No, no soy dgx.
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21:12 <Horsey> lol
21:12 <Jello> ...
21:12 <Havac> Aaaah!
21:12 <Horsey> ok so back to the Fel bashing
21:12 <Havac> :p
21:12 <Trip> Charles! Quick, start something.
21:12 * Horsey glares at Hav
21:12 <Trip> Suck the awskwardness out of this chat.
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21:12 <Dunc> Topic suggestions?
21:12 * Jello sets mode: +v Charlemagne19
21:12 <Jello> I know I'll regret that.
21:12 <Charlemagne19> So, will Roan Fel make it to the end of the series or will he die and force his daughter to take over ala Bail Organa
21:12 <Jello> :-p
21:13 <Trip> There we go.
21:13 <Charlemagne19> Thanks GAJ
21:13 <Jello> I'm unsure of either option.
21:13 <Charlemagne19> Roan Fel on Bastion: OH CRAP! SUPPERLASEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
21:13 <Havac> I don't think we've seen enough to tell.
21:13 <Charlemagne19> *BOOM*
21:13 <Horsey> darn you Jello, I was trying to force Hav to do that
21:13 <Jello> Why? :-p
21:13 <Charlemagne19> Now, Lisa, that would be impossible.
21:13 * Horsey was kicked by Havac (Bah!.)
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21:13 <Havac> Nick!
21:13 <Charlemagne19> Havac and I are anti-matter to matter
21:13 <Trip> I think, if Roan dies, it'll be a year or so from now.
21:14 * Dunc sets mode: +v AdmiralNick
21:14 <Albireo> Marasiah either takes over at some point or leaves his father's side to join the Jedi.
21:14 <Trip> Year or more, I mean.
21:14 <AdmiralNick> Hello All
21:14 <Trip> He needs more development before going out.
21:14 <AdmiralNick> Anyone else looking forward to #20? ;-)
21:14 <Trip> Howdy, Nick.
21:14 <Havac> I don't think we've seen enough to know where Sia will be going.
21:14 <Trip> Of course.
21:14 <LordHydronium> Nick is the sign of what our next topic should be. ;)
21:14 <Havac> Nick: Hell yes.
21:14 <Kypt> I'm still looking forward to #14 :(
21:14 <Jello> They had best swap the laser colors.
21:14 <Jello> Eh? 14 hasn't come out there yet?
21:14 <Havac> I'm still looking forward to Shards.
21:14 <Havac> :p
21:15 <Charlemagne19> Yeah, I do think that the series is probably a LONG way from completing
21:15 <Kypt> Haven't been able to find it
21:15 <Jello> I wonder if they're doing that as a hardcover too.
21:15 <LordHydronium> I'm still looking forward to Knights of Suffering.
21:15 * Horsey hugs Kypt
21:15 <LordHydronium> Wait, wrong series. :P
21:15 <Charlemagne19> I do hope the Krayt arc ends by Issue 100# though
21:15 <Jello> If so, I should get Jan to draw me another Fel sketch.
21:15 <Kypt> Probably has, I'm just to lazy to go looking :b
21:15 <AdmiralNick> When I saw the cover and blurb for #20 I thought that Dark Horse had hacked my vrain
21:15 <Charlemagne19> ten years is too long to wait for an arc to finish
21:15 <AdmiralNick> *brain
21:15 <Albireo> #8 and #13 developed Roan Fel... How much more development is needed?
21:15 <Charlemagne19> I remember when Series were 6 issues long
21:15 <Typo> Funny, I thought so as well, AdmiralNick.
21:16 <Trip> Charles-- think of it as, say, Marvel.
21:16 <Jello> Featuring a character is not the same as developing him.
21:16 <AdmiralNick> I sent John Ostrander PM
21:16 <Typo> I was like, "Hey, they must have signed Nick as a writer!"
21:16 <Jello> Rather.
21:16 <Charlemagne19> I loved Marvel fine but we had the movies to handle things too
21:16 <Jello> He is being developed, but is not fully so.
21:17 <Jello> I wonder if we'll see any more attempts for the Loyalists and the Stazis to join up again.
21:17 <AdmiralNick> He responded back by saying "I'll admit, I was thinking that you would squeal when I plotted this. One of my goals"
21:17 <Trip> I'd think so.
21:17 <AdmiralNick> I love that guy!!
21:17 <Havac> I don't think we will in 20 or 21.
21:17 <Havac> Eventually, yes, we will.
21:17 <Trip> Don't we all, Nick?
21:17 <Albireo> Eventually, if Stazi survives.
21:17 <Jello> Haha.
21:17 <Jello> He did?
21:17 <AdmiralNick> Yeah
21:17 <Charlemagne19> Anyone else find it funny that the good guys are lead by a guy named Stazi?
21:17 <Albireo> Which he might not do.
21:17 <Albireo> Not really.
21:17 <AdmiralNick> Bah, Stazi is the man
21:18 <Charlemagne19> It's a bit early to wipe out the Galactic Alliance Core Forces
21:18 <Trip> You assume the GA are the good guys, Charles?
21:18 <AdmiralNick> He is Ackbar reincarnated into Duros form
21:18 <Trip> We'll see where Lohtiff goes. :P
21:18 <AdmiralNick> Trip....
21:18 <Havac> Stazi is awesome.
21:18 <Charlemagne19> I think it'd be anti-Star Wars that we're supposed to root for the Empire completely.
21:18 <Jello> It's a fair point though, Nick.
21:18 <Havac> I want to see more of the GA leadership, though.
21:18 <Charlemagne19> Throw us Democrats a bone
21:18 <LordHydronium> You know, I wouldn't call myself a big Galactic Alliance fan, but I am very interested in seeing them in this era.
21:18 <Albireo> Fel is not a nice name either.
21:18 <Jello> We don't know if this is the successor of Jacen's government.
21:18 <Jello> Or a "fixed" government.
21:18 <Charlemagne19> We need a Solidus Snake in the GFFA.
21:18 <Charlemagne19> A guy who makes Democracy seem tough and badass
21:18 <AdmiralNick> The GA will be good
21:18 <Charlemagne19> "Constitution means I get to KICK YOUR ASS!"
21:18 <Jello> Palpatine...?
21:19 <Trip> I've never *liked* the GA, due to its origins.
21:19 <AdmiralNick> Mark me
21:19 <Havac> You mean Wedge Antilles.
21:19 <Trip> But they are interesting.
21:19 * Dunc changes topic to 'Legacy chat: Galactic Alliance.'
21:19 <Dunc> late, sorry
21:19 <Trip> Moreso in Legacy, of course.
21:19 <Albireo> Jacen's government will end in Invincible. This will be some kind reformed, good GA.
21:19 <Jello> They pull knives in negotiations.
21:19 <Jello> How "good" is that.
21:19 <Jello> Stazi is a thug. A gangster.
21:19 <Jello> :-p
21:19 <Jello> Though I understand those are compliments in the vernacular.
21:19 <Albireo> Self-defense.
21:19 <AdmiralNick> Jello, if you had experienced the betrayal, youy would of pulled a knife too
21:19 <Trip> He is a bit of a spaz...
21:19 <Jello> (I know, play long)
21:20 <Jello> *along
21:20 <Albireo> Stazi is a survivor.
21:20 <LordHydronium> Stazi is a Duros. By definition, that makes him awesome.
21:20 <Jello> No, I would have slapped him across the face with my glove.
21:20 <Jello> Do Duros speak like Neimoidians?
21:20 <AdmiralNick> Remember, odds are the GA and Empire werwe allied before Project Ossus
21:20 <Charlemagne19> Duros are Cowards. Damn Trade Federation
21:20 <Jello> Given their ancestry?
21:20 <Jello> If so, that could potentially be awesome.
21:20 <LordHydronium> Duros talk like awesomeness.
21:20 <Jello> Imagine someone with a Gunray voice stalking smack.
21:20 <Charlemagne19> No, the Duros spoke in ANH
21:20 <Jello> When?
21:20 <Jello> not Basic.
21:20 <Charlemagne19> It sounded like "Yababa Bababba Yabba."
21:20 <Dunc> But the Empire had Coruscant?
21:20 <LordHydronium> They were all "mummbubummbubm"
21:20 <Jello> Yeah, that doesn't count. :-p
21:20 <Havac> The Empire had Bastion. The GA had Coruscant.
21:21 <Jello> I meant Basic.
21:21 <LordHydronium> And in KOTOR they're all "Grooka frenky cheeno".
21:21 <Jello> ....lol
21:21 <Trip> Yeah, they sound like they're gargling in KotOR.
21:21 <Typo> Bring me a Mocha Chino?
21:21 <AdmiralNick> The key to making fans happy is a galaxy slit between the GA and Empitre
21:21 <Charlemagne19> Yeah, the Empire is sort of like Modern Day Russia
21:21 <AdmiralNick> *Em;pire
21:21 <Jello> We get the Core.
21:21 <Charlemagne19> A big stick and formerly unpleasant Empire the GFFA is ostenibly allied with
21:21 <Albireo> Roan Fel is Vladimir Putin?
21:21 <AdmiralNick> Jello, we split the Core
21:21 <Charlemagne19> Good comparison.
21:21 <Dunc> D:
21:21 <Trip> Second Empire =/= First.
21:21 <Jello> Fine. We get the Slice, then.
21:22 <Albireo> Is that a compliment?
21:22 <Jello> And the Sector Zero.
21:22 <Charlemagne19> Dude, the Empire of the future is all Outer Rim territories
21:22 <Jello> Not currently.
21:22 <AdmiralNick> Jello, Chandrilia, Esseles, and Ralittir are all pro-Rebel
21:22 <Jello> ;-)
21:22 <AdmiralNick> We get those
21:22 <Jello> Esseles is not.
21:22 <Charlemagne19> No, according to you, the Empire only controls Bastion
21:22 <Charlemagne19> Because the others are traitors.
21:22 <Jello> No, just led by a traitor.
21:22 <Jello> Well, they are all traitors.
21:22 <Jello> But it still lawfully belongs to the Empire.
21:22 <Charlemagne19> What can we say, Imperials like Shao-Khan.
21:23 <Charlemagne19> Except, that was all taken by military conquest!
21:23 <AdmiralNick> In fact, the galaxy would be at peace if Jello and I drew the borders
21:23 <AdmiralNick> :p
21:23 <Jello> Probably.
21:23 <LordHydronium> What ever happened to the Deep Core?
21:23 <Jello> We should get Ostrander to canonize us both.
21:23 <Charlemagne19> Destiny's Way ruined the Deep Core
21:23 <AdmiralNick> hahahah
21:23 <Charlemagne19> They said it was literally unpopulated
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21:23 <Jello> though perhaps he has?
21:24 <Trip> So long as canonJello has a droid named TK-I
21:24 <Jello> If Stazi == Nick and Roan == Jello. Problem is in the names of course.
21:24 <Jello> T1-K1
21:24 <Jello> :-p
21:24 <Typo> Canonized or not, neither of you are saints.
21:24 <Jello> That's alright.
21:24 <AdmiralNick> Jello, maybe they saw our debates over the years and gave us both character we wanted
21:24 <Jello> Being a god is better than a saint.
21:24 * Dunc rolls her eyes
21:24 <Jello> They must have.
21:24 <AdmiralNick> Of course, I don't mind if my character is subject to a Senate and CoS
21:24 <AdmiralNick> :-)
21:25 <Jello> Well, we don't know if there is a CoS.
21:25 <Charlemagne19> I liked the issue with Darth Kuhl.
21:25 <Trip> *Triumvirate. :P
21:25 <Charlemagne19> I like Darth Malak and Kuhl better than any other Sith in Krayt's inner circle
21:25 <Typo> Does he sell cigarettes to children?
21:25 <Typo> Kuhl, that is.
21:25 <AdmiralNick> I still think the Triunvirate is the CoS, Supreme Commander, and some Senator
21:25 <Albireo> CoS might be a part of the triumvirate.
21:25 <Charlemagne19> Maybe it's because they seem remotely competent.
21:25 <Jello> possibly
21:26 <Charlemagne19> GFFA is ruled by Lepedius, Augustus, and Antony
21:26 <Jello> Lepidus
21:26 <Albireo> Kruhl was interesting and perhaps wasted with the role he had.
21:26 <Jello> and Octavian
21:26 <Jello> not Augustus quite then.
21:26 <Trip> Kruhl was rather interesting for the short role he played, yes.
21:27 <Jello> Did he have a personality?
21:27 <Jello> I didn't notice.
21:27 <AdmiralNick> Anyone want to bet we see Rogue Squadron briefly in either #20 or #21?
21:27 <Trip> I saw one, yeah.
21:27 <Charlemagne19> BTW, funniest moment in Legacy for me was seeing Grand Admiral Veed was ripped with a tatoo
21:27 <Havac> I hope we do.
21:27 <Charlemagne19> It was so utterly not what I was expecting from him
21:27 <Trip> But I tend to read maybe too much into things.
21:27 <Albireo> I would say so.
21:27 <LordHydronium> I'd like to see the Rogues, even if I'm not big fans of them in the earlier eras.
21:27 <Havac> I want an unusual species for Rogue leader, too.
21:27 <Trip> I'm ambivalent about the Rogues.
21:27 <Charlemagne19> But yeah, Veed has to be a military genius. As stupid as he was with Krayt, the only other option for leadership of the armies was Nihl
21:28 <Havac> But the Rogues are tradition. You can't have the GA without them.
21:28 <Albireo> Perhaps, if Stazi's fleet survives.
21:28 <Rohniss> I want a return of Human High Culture.
21:28 <Trip> Don't really care one way or another.
21:28 <AdmiralNick> Stazi will survive
21:28 <LordHydronium> The Rogues are an icon.
21:28 <Charlemagne19> I hope it's Rogue WING now than Rogue Squadron.
21:28 <Havac> CE tried that. Lame.
21:28 <Albireo> What was the role of Stryfe? Isn't he a commander of sorts?
21:28 <AdmiralNick> You don't build up a faction just to throw them away
21:28 <Charlemagne19> I think High Human Culture took a nose dive when most of Coruscants humans were killed
21:28 <Trip> The Rogues are a joke buy Lohtiff, so I guess it'd be good for them to be something decent.
21:28 <Trip> *by
21:28 <LordHydronium> Like 'em or not, I think as long as there's a continuation of the Rebel Alliance/NR/GA, they'll be there.
21:28 <Havac> I still want to know who took over after Gavin, dammit.
21:28 <Havac> Inyri? Varth?
21:29 <LordHydronium> Varth Dader?
21:29 <Trip> Jaina?
21:29 <Havac> Alinn Varth.
21:29 <LordHydronium> Ah.
21:29 <Havac> Not Jaina right away.
21:29 <LordHydronium> No idea who that is.
21:29 <AdmiralNick> I wnat Lensi to be Rogue Leader
21:29 <Havac> Rogue 9 during the YVW.
21:29 <Typo> We didn't even see Varth as a member of the squadron for the last half of the Vong war, though.
21:29 <AdmiralNick> *want
21:29 <Trip> Aren't the Rogues a Jedi squadron in Bloodlines
21:29 <Trip> ?
21:29 <Charlemagne19> No, that's the Wild Knights
21:29 <AdmiralNick> No
21:29 <Charlemagne19> No
21:29 <AdmiralNick> Just led by some Jedi
21:29 <Charlemagne19> Wait
21:29 <Havac> Yeah, she disappeared after, what, Rebirth?
21:29 <Horsey> no, there are Jedi in the rogues
21:29 <Charlemagne19> Jacen gets put in charge of Rogue Squadron
21:30 <Havac> Along with Inyri.
21:30 <Charlemagne19> Which is....outrageous
21:30 <Albireo> 3 Jedi members.
21:30 <Kypt> At least
21:30 <Charlemagne19> Weirdly, Bloodlines ticked me off more for than anyone.
21:30 <Kypt> Bloodlines mentioned the squad melding IIRC
21:30 <Havac> But it was still a GA squadron.
21:30 <Albireo> But it seemed in Bloodlines like there were only the 3 of them.
21:30 <Charlemagne19> Jaina gets court martialled for disobeying a Colonel in the military for all of 5 days
21:30 <Kypt> *Bloodlines
21:30 <Trip> I could've sworn Traviss stuck them in Stealth-X's.
21:30 <AdmiralNick> Nope
21:30 <AdmiralNick> XJ-7"s
21:30 <Dunc> This isn't a Bloodlines discussion, remember?
21:30 <Trip> Ah, that's right.
21:30 <Charlemagne19> No, that was just part of Rogue Squadron.
21:31 <Albireo> No other members.
21:31 <Charlemagne19> Yeah, I actually like that the Vong war overshadows all that Cadeus does
21:31 <Charlemagne19> It makes his coming defeat all the sweeter
21:31 <Charlemagne19> Jacen isn't even remembered
21:31 <LordHydronium> Speaking of starfighters, I'm not sure whether the Crossfire is goofy or awesome.
21:31 <AdmiralNick> I am hoping to see CF9 Crossfires soon. And those GA support ships that we got the blueprints for
21:31 <Trip> I like it as the new Skipray.
21:31 <AdmiralNick> It is growing on me
21:31 <Trip> Not so much as the new X-Wing.
21:31 <Albireo> Caedus or Jacen? There might be a difference...
21:32 <Typo> I'm iffy about all of the Starfighters, currently.
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21:32 <Trip> The TIEs are ugly.
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21:32 <Typo> The Predator has grown on me, but only a little.
21:32 <LordHydronium> The Predator is one of those things that I like as long as I don't even try to think about it.
21:32 <Typo> Exactly.
21:32 <LordHydronium> I like the lines, but it makes no damn sense.
21:32 <Trip> They still haven't grown on me.
21:32 <AdmiralNick> The Scythe-class battle cruiser is beautiful
21:32 <Jello> The Predator is hideous.
21:32 <Trip> The only ones, too, really.
21:32 <Jello> The new shuttle is hideous
21:32 <AdmiralNick> God I love Sean Cooke's work
21:32 <Jello> The Pelly class is beyond hideous
21:32 <Trip> I kinda like the Nu-class shuttle.
21:32 <AdmiralNick> (Looks at wall) ;)
21:32 <Trip> I really like Pellys, now.
21:32 <AdmiralNick> Me too
21:32 <Trip> Though not the name.
21:32 <Typo> I like the Pellys too.
21:33 <Trip> :P
21:33 <Jello> You'd better not.
21:33 <Havac> I like the Twintail.
21:33 <Trip> I like that it's Jedi-specific.
21:33 <AdmiralNick> Good design
21:33 <AdmiralNick> The Jedi Shuttle is nice tp
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21:33 <Trip> I like that it's not obviously an X-Wing, too.
21:33 <LordHydronium> Nu shuttle is cool.
21:34 <Trip> #13 made me like the Nu-class.
21:34 <Trip> Colin can draw ships.
21:34 <Typo> Yeah, he can.
21:34 * LordHydronium changes topic to 'Legacy chat: Ships and starfighters.'
21:34 <AdmiralNick> Alliance Shuttle takes the prize. A Corellian center im a Mon Cal shell
21:34 <AdmiralNick> Which, BTW, hints the GA and Corellia eventually repair relations
21:35 <LordHydronium> Hm, according to 0, the Twintail is the new X-wing, while the Crossfire is a "logical extension of...the X-wing and the...Headhunter"
21:35 <Trip> I really like how the Nu has a command walkway.
21:36 <Jello> there is nothing graceful about the Nu
21:36 <Jello> it's hideous
21:36 <Typo> The Crossfire is anything but logical.
21:37 <AdmiralNick> I like the Crossfire. And I like how Sean Cooke put the red lines on its wings in that GA fleet painting
21:37 <Trip> Nus are ungainly, but they look great on the ground.
21:37 <Trip> Hey, Nick-- it just occurred to me.
21:37 <Trip> GA symbol!
21:37 <AdmiralNick> Force willing, in Legacy #29
21:37 <AdmiralNick> *20
21:38 <AdmiralNick> Damned key board
21:38 <Trip> It's gotta be in there
21:38 <Jello> no.... they don't
21:38 <AdmiralNick> Randy has hinted they are working on a GA symbol
21:38 <Havac> I really want a GA symbol.
21:38 <AdmiralNick> Me too
21:38 <LordHydronium> The GA needs a symbol.
21:38 <AdmiralNick> With the Starbird
21:38 <LordHydronium> Like Omas needs a picture. :|
21:38 <AdmiralNick> Or I get violent
21:38 <Trip> Ew, no starbird.
21:38 <LordHydronium> But that's another topic. :P
21:38 <Trip> Ew.
21:38 <Trip> :P
21:39 <AdmiralNick> Two things link the GA to the NR to the RA- Starbird and the Rogues
21:39 <Typo> No more Starbrids, please.
21:39 <Jello> it'll be a galaxy, just watch.
21:39 <Havac> I'd like it if they actually shifted from the Starbird and did something original.
21:39 <Trip> A stylized Galaxy would be neat
21:39 <AdmiralNick> I acutally imagine it is a Starbird over a galaxy
21:39 <LordHydronium> Nuts to the Starbird.
21:39 <AdmiralNick> Or in the center of a galaxy
21:40 <Trip> I'd think the GA would want to distance itself from the NR as much as possible... :P
21:40 <Typo> That's my rationale.
21:40 <AdmiralNick> But not the Rebellion
21:40 <AdmiralNick> That is the link everyone would want to remember
21:40 <Trip> Unfortunately, the Starbird's tainted by then.
21:40 <Typo> Agreed.
21:40 <Trip> Most people would remember it as the NR logo, not the rebel one.
21:40 <Typo> It's got smears from Fey'lya's paws all over it.
21:41 <Horsey> eww Fey'lya
21:41 <Trip> And Mothma.
21:41 <AdmiralNick> Here is my rationale- is the US flag smeared by past presidents of either party? Or the Union Jack?
21:41 <Typo> Yes.
21:41 <AdmiralNick> No
21:41 <AdmiralNick> The symbol means more than any leader
21:41 <Jello> The US hasn't collapsed and destroyed the world in the process.
21:42 <Horsey> yet
21:42 <Trip> Yeah... the NR's problems go way beyond an administration.
21:42 <Jello> Yeah. They pretty much let the galaxy go to hell.
21:42 <AdmiralNick> Yup.
21:42 <Trip> The GA was all about starting fresh.
21:42 <AdmiralNick> Authors. :p
21:42 <Jello> And the Rebels... well, we know what the common people think of them
21:42 <Jello> remember Betrayal?
21:42 <Jello> They're not too fondly remembered either.
21:42 <Jello> the GA would prefer to start fresh methinks
21:42 <AdmiralNick> Bah. That was one officer
21:43 <Typo> Yeah, but Wedge had expressed some concern that this was something more prevalent.
21:43 <AdmiralNick> Democracy is not easy. Never has been. Hence why I don't give up on the GA.
21:44 <AdmiralNick> It is bigger than a leader. Like Luke and tenel ka said in Sacrifice
21:44 <Horsey> if you ever do, we're screwed cuz someone has to balance Jello out
21:44 <AdmiralNick> lol
21:44 <Trip> Personally, I gave up on it when Omas got installed.
21:44 <Trip> But I feel ya, Nick.
21:45 <Jello> I gave up on it when... okay, there's no answer to this that could possibly be honest.
21:45 <Horsey> lol
21:45 <Rohniss> Democracy... ugh.
21:46 <AdmiralNick> A constitutional republic
21:46 <AdmiralNick> :)
21:46 <AdmiralNick> A federal constitutional republic
21:46 <AdmiralNick> Bah, I am such a history/poly sci major
21:46 <Rohniss> probably for the best
21:46 <Dunc> Legacy?
21:46 <Rohniss> mass democracy is a fraud
21:46 <Dunc> Topic topics!
21:46 <Typo> What's that?
21:46 <Rohniss> always has been always will be
21:46 <Jello> we're still technically discussing the Stazis, Dunc.
21:47 * Rohniss changes topic to 'Legacy Chat: Government Battle Royale.'
21:47 <AdmiralNick> Love the Stazi!
21:47 <Dunc> Okay....
21:47 <AdmiralNick> He neds a cool name for his flagship
21:47 <Jello> Unbowed
21:47 <Trip> Stazi itself is an uncommonly cool name.
21:47 <Rohniss> there.... <Mortal Kombat> FIGHT </MK>
21:47 <AdmiralNick> Ackbar's Legacy? Home Two?
21:47 <AdmiralNick> :p
21:48 <Trip> Home Two, lol.
21:48 <Trip> I wish /Galaxy Voyager/ had been called that.
21:48 <Typo> It'll probably be the Mon Etcetera.
21:48 <AdmiralNick> hahahaha
21:48 <LordHydronium> What's Galaxy Voyager?
21:48 <Rohniss> Point for Typo
21:48 <Trip> Ackbar's MC90
21:49 <AdmiralNick> Dammit, we need a MC ship named after Ackbar!
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21:49 <AdmiralNick> Stazi's warship should just be called Ackbar
21:49 <Rohniss> Mon Dinner
21:49 <AdmiralNick> No "Admiral
21:49 <Trip> Mon Raivac
21:49 <Rohniss> Mon Dinner Seafood Sampler
21:49 <AdmiralNick> Only Russians name ships with a rank in them
21:49 <Trip> Mon Utun.
21:49 <LordHydronium> Mon Dieu!
21:49 <LordHydronium> With the exclamation point.
21:49 <Rohniss> Mon ITS A TRAP
21:49 <Trip> Mon Tubilah.
21:49 <AdmiralNick> hahahahaha
21:50 <Rohniss> or Tarp for comedic value
21:50 <AdmiralNick> Ooooh....
21:50 <AdmiralNick> Memory of Caamas?
21:50 <LordHydronium> I want to see a ship called the Tarpals.
21:51 <Trip> I can see that Caamas.
21:51 <Trip> Speaking of which... why Caamas/
21:51 <Trip> ?
21:51 <Jello> the surrender
21:51 <AdmiralNick> Hmmm...
21:51 <Trip> I wonder if it was one of the hundred.
21:51 <Jello> remember #8?
21:51 <LordHydronium> Actually, speaking of ship namesakes, no one ever seems to have named a ship for Palpatine.
21:51 <Jello> not directly
21:51 <Trip> Yes, Jello-- which is why, "why Caamas?"
21:51 <Typo> I wonder why?
21:51 <Dunc> Eye of Palpatine
21:51 <Jello> but "Emperor" yes.
21:51 <Rohniss> Imperator
21:51 <Typo> Yes, that.
21:52 <AdmiralNick> Well, it is in the Core
21:52 <Trip> Strategic value? Is it on an hyperlanes?
21:52 <Jello> it's a good battleground
21:52 <AdmiralNick> Maybe the GA fleet was massign there to defend Kuat or Coruscant?
21:52 <Jello> there's nothing of value there
21:52 <Rohniss> perhaps the SD's were named after Palps virtues :D
21:52 <Jello> they can fight to their heart's content
21:52 <Trip> True.
21:52 <AdmiralNick> Unless....
21:52 <LordHydronium> For a moment I didn't realize what y'all were talking about. Then I remembered this is a Legacy chat. :P
21:52 <AdmiralNick> Maybe Caamas was fixed by Poject Ossus?
21:52 <LordHydronium> I think that makes a lot of sense.
21:52 <Trip> That's what I meant.
21:53 <Havac> Chains of Justice is still the best ship name ever.
21:53 <AdmiralNick> And repopulated?
21:53 <Trip> If it was one of the hundred.
21:53 <Jello> Eleemosynary is better
21:53 <Rohniss> Death's Head
21:53 <LordHydronium> Moffship.
21:53 <Trip> Whelm.
21:53 <Rohniss> or Implacable
21:53 <AdmiralNick> Vortex Wind
21:53 <Jello> ...Whelm?!
21:53 <Trip> I like Whelm.
21:53 <Jello> Why?
21:53 <LordHydronium> I'm over Whelm. :P
21:54 <Trip> Because, I like... Whelm.
21:54 <Horsey> Tiki!
21:54 <Jello> for the same reason you like LotF?
21:54 <Horsey> the ship should be called Tiki!
21:54 <Trip> I love Whelm!
21:54 <Trip> Mon Tiki...
21:54 <Trip> It rolls off the tongue.
21:54 <Jello> lol, Mon Tiki would actually work
21:55 <Horsey> :D
21:55 <Typo> The Mon Dontouchmahreefermon.
21:55 <LordHydronium> "Mon Adapyne" is a silly name.
21:55 <AdmiralNick> So, what is Stazi going to find?
21:55 <LordHydronium> Love.
21:55 <Typo> Treasure?
21:55 <Trip> Adventure.
21:55 <Horsey> Pain?
21:55 <Kypt> Ackbar clone
21:55 <LordHydronium> In Alderaan places.
21:55 <Trip> The Thrawn Simulator!
21:55 <AdmiralNick> hahahaha
21:55 <Jello> That still annoys me.
21:56 <Kypt> Made by Winter
21:56 <Jello> If they had a bloody Thrawn simulator, why don't they let it win their battles?
21:56 <Jello> :-p
21:56 <Trip> No, an Ackbar/Thrawn biot, made by the Vong.
21:56 <Trip> No, made by Maladi, using Vong tech.
21:56 <Jello> Ackbar/Thrawn made by fanfic.
21:56 <Jello> :-p
21:56 <Trip> They shall call it a Thackbar.
21:56 <Jello> Damn you
21:56 <Kypt> Thrackbar
21:56 <AdmiralNick> Thrawn Simulator = bad. Nek Bwua'tu = good
21:56 <Jello> I was going to say that.
21:56 <Kypt> dammit
21:56 <Havac> It's the preserved brain of Palpatine.
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21:57 <Trip> Thrackbar is better.
21:57 <Jello> Ackrawn.
21:57 <Kypt> Ackprawn
21:57 <Kypt> :b
21:57 <Jello> I think we're making Nick sad.
21:57 <Jello> :-p
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21:58 <Trip> I done did it again.
21:59 <Horsey> come on Typi
21:59 <Horsey> Typo
21:59 <Typo> What?
21:59 <Jello> Haha, Typi.
21:59 <Horsey> start us off again
21:59 <Horsey> I'm typing with one hand
21:59 <Typo> ...
21:59 <Horsey> cuz I'm straightening my hair
21:59 <Horsey> I hate you
21:59 <Trip> Skywalkers: Pink forever more?
21:59 <Trip> I say yes.
22:00 <Dunc> hrrrmmmm
22:00 <AdmiralNick> Trip- I need to ask
22:00 <Typo> Will we ever see Lowbacca?
22:00 <AdmiralNick> Why do you really hate Luke?
22:00 <Jello> Horsey...
22:00 <Jello> This.
22:00 <Jello> *imagine Tiki's voice*
22:00 <Trip> Nick-- it's a loooong list of reasons. :P
22:00 <Horsey> Jello
22:00 <Horsey> Get out of the gutter
22:00 <AdmiralNick> Cliff notes?
22:00 <Jello> I am in the clouds. Above them actually.
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22:01 <Jello> Hello
22:01 <Dunc> allo allo
22:01 <LadyElaine> Hi. :-)
22:01 <LadyElaine> First time here.
22:01 <Horsey> Welcome!
22:01 <Dunc> muhahaha
22:01 <LadyElaine> Thanks!
22:01 * Horsey gives a stern look to the boys
22:01 <Horsey> Now don't scare her off
22:01 <Jello> Ego? Non potens!
22:01 <LadyElaine> Lol!
22:02 <LadyElaine> I just came from a Joseph Campbell group where they were discussing that Legacy Revealed show, and was inspired to pop in.
22:02 <Horsey> Who's your favorite Legacy character?
22:02 <LadyElaine> Jacen.
22:02 <Dunc> Wrong Legacy
22:03 <Typo> lol.
22:03 <AdmiralNick> Stazi, Marasiah, Shado
22:03 <Dunc> We're talking only the comics tonight. :D
22:03 <LordHydronium> See, Nick and Jello have something in common. :P
22:03 <LadyElaine> I haven't read those yet. I'm waiting till I can find the first ones in a single book.
22:03 <Typo> Shado Vao, Wolf Sazen, Roan Fel, Darth Nihl.
22:03 <Jello> You can.
22:03 <Typo> And Krayt, to an extent.
22:03 <Jello> The trade paperback's been out for months.
22:03 <Kypt> Antares, Ganner, shado and Nihl
22:03 <LadyElaine> Ooooooh!
22:04 * Horsey <3's Kypt
22:04 <Trip> Tough question, Horsey...
22:04 <Jello> The second one will be out soon, actually.
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22:04 <AdmiralNick> Jello and I are proof that opposite opinions don't mean two people cannot be friends
22:04 * Dunc sets mode: +v Sith
22:04 <Horsey> unless you are Charles and Hav
22:04 <AdmiralNick> hahahaha
22:04 <Trip> Favorite-favorite, or funny-favorite?
22:04 <Jello> the first one, Trip
22:04 <Horsey> both, Trip
22:04 <Jello> if it was funny favorite you'd list everyone
22:04 <Jello> :-p
22:04 <Kypt> Favourite
22:04 <Jello> As for myself, I don't think I need to even say it.
22:05 <Jello> Kypt, this is a chat where we spell correctly.
22:05 <Jello> Sorry.
22:05 <Horsey> I don't think I do either...
22:05 <Kypt> Away with your guttaral degardation of the English language
22:05 <LordHydronium> Jello: Of course. Clearly you'd pick Cade, Krayt, Stazi, and Calixte. :P
22:05 <Jello> Away with your Francophone corruptions.
22:05 <Horsey> though because we have some new peeps, I'll say Cade
22:05 <Jello> oh Bruce
22:05 <Jello> how was the game yesterday?
22:05 <Kypt> Quiet you
22:05 <Trip> Well, literal favorites-- Roan and Krayt, pretty much.
22:05 <Trip> As all-arounders.
22:06 <Typo> I await Nihl's attempt to overthrow Krayt.
22:06 <AdmiralNick> I actually like Roan.
22:06 <Kypt> At least the Kiwi's lost as well
22:06 <Typo> That'll be an interesting smackdown.
22:06 <Trip> Nihl, Wyyrlok, Maladi, Nyna, Morlish, Shado, Sia, Cade, Deliah, Rav, Stazi, etc. are all varying degrees of interesting and/or fun.
22:07 <AdmiralNick> Bovark
22:07 <Horsey> so...everyone
22:07 <Jello> How dare you put Her Imperial Highness in the same category!
22:07 <Trip> Antares, Ganner, Morlish, Talon, the Yages, etc. are all verying degrees of comical.
22:07 <Jello> Bovark wins just because of his name.
22:07 <Charlemagne19> Thisis a truly fascinating conversation.
22:07 <Trip> So yeah, I like everyone, to some degree.
22:07 <Havac> Kol, Roan, Shado. Those are my favorites.
22:07 <Charlemagne19> And I consider Havac a friend.
22:07 <Havac> And Wolf, too.
22:07 <Trip> Favorites are Krayt and Roan, though.
22:08 <Charlemagne19> Just one I must disagree with on everything
22:08 <AdmiralNick> I like Kol too
22:08 <AdmiralNick> In fact, I want more flashback issues
22:08 <Dunc> I agree
22:08 <Charlemagne19> So, how does Emperor Veed sound?
22:08 <Trip> Yes, Kol too.
22:08 <Charlemagne19> The Veed Dynasty
22:08 <Trip> He's quite interesting.
22:08 * Horsey laughs
22:08 <AdmiralNick> But Cades mom is another thing...
22:08 <Horsey> Veed is a tool
22:08 <AdmiralNick> She seems to- uber
22:09 <Trip> Charles-- wouldn't that be the Calixte dynasty?
22:09 <Trip> :P
22:09 <AdmiralNick> Charles- why do you like Veed? You seems to root for him alot. :p
22:10 <Charlemagne19> We need competent regular Imperials who are still soulless bastards.
22:10 <Charlemagne19> We haven't had one since Tarkin
22:10 <Trip> Awww.
22:10 <Trip> Don't call poor Morlish soulless. :(
22:10 <Charlemagne19> He's also a funny character.
22:10 <Trip> Don't call him competent, either. :P
22:10 <Trip> He is that.
22:10 <Charlemagne19> It's amusing to have him be the antithesis of most Imperial qualities.
22:10 <Trip> Even his name is amusing.
22:10 <Charlemagne19> Beefy and a shameless sex hound
22:10 <AdmiralNick> Gunner I am split on. Half of me likes her, half of me despises her as a Kara Thrace clone
22:11 <Jello> I like her because she's destined for Cade
22:11 <Charlemagne19> I don't like Morrigan
22:11 <RF> But she has such an interesting family life.
22:11 <Charlemagne19> She seems like she came out of a plastic box
22:11 <Jello> Cade... with a Gunn?! and all
22:11 <Typo> She's too interested in making daddy love her.
22:11 <Trip> For some reason, my sister found Gunner hilarious from the get-go.
22:11 <Charlemagne19> Is it possible that Cade's mom is Guri?
22:11 <RF> ...
22:11 <Charlemagne19> No seriously, she's supposed to be 50
22:12 <Charlemagne19> And she looks kinda plastic.
22:12 <Typo> Can droids give birth?
22:12 <Trip> She looks it in the most recent.
22:12 <RF> She looks like a female Cade.
22:12 <RF> Which sort of makes sense...
22:12 <Trip> Like so many fifty-somethings who refuse to age gracefully.
22:12 <Charlemagne19> Yeah, I thought she was Cade's sister at first
22:12 * Trip shudders.
22:12 <Charlemagne19> I confess, I don't like Gunn Yage alone
22:12 <Charlemagne19> But I like her with her father.
22:12 <Typo> Skywalkers don't mess with anything less than supermodels.
22:13 <Trip> They do have a fun dynamic.
22:13 <Charlemagne19> Yeah, it's very real while at the same time being sitcom
22:13 <LadyElaine> Now I'm gonna have to find this thing on Amazon!
22:13 <Typo> I actually like Moff Yage.
22:13 <Dunc> hehe
22:13 <Horsey> you need to Elaine
22:13 <Horsey> its awesome
22:13 <Typo> He seems like an old battleax.
22:13 <Trip> Yage...
22:13 <Charlemagne19> Yeah, Moff Yage simultaneously comes off as not too bright yet also probably smarter than Veed.
22:13 <AdmiralNick> I want to see more Jedi! Like the Togurta, Mon Cal, Nautolan, Zabrak and Human younglings from #1
22:13 <Trip> ... is an ugly dude.
22:13 <Horsey> I've never read comics before and I love this series
22:13 <Trip> Which is good.
22:14 <Trip> Poor, poor gunner
22:14 <Horsey> and we need more girls in here to balance out the testosterone
22:14 <Trip> With parents like that, she didn't have a chance.
22:14 <Typo> Ugly on the outside, and ugly on the inside?
22:14 <Trip> Although I guess she came out alright, considering.
22:14 <Trip> In general.
22:14 <Trip> Just being a normal kid.
22:14 <LordHydronium> I like the Yages.
22:14 <LordHydronium> Including Calixte.
22:15 <Typo> Calixte just reminds me of a modern Isard.
22:15 <Horsey> I see that too, Typo
22:15 <Trip> Only a competent one. :P
22:15 <Trip> She's like the lovechild of Isard and Tarkin.
22:15 <Typo> Tall, ugly, and mean?
22:15 <RF> Only slightly more likeable.
22:15 <Typo> And you can smell her from a mile away?
22:16 <Trip> With these cheekbones, and that hair, she's *destined* to rule!
22:16 <RF> And not with the creepy "I wuv Palpy" fantasies.
22:16 <LordHydronium> While Veed is like the lovechild of Daala and Pestage? :P
22:16 <Charlemagne19> I think Calixte is slightly smarter than Ysanne.
22:16 <Trip> I also love how she paints herself up like a streetwalker for Morlish.
22:16 <Charlemagne19> I wish that it turned out that Voren Naal's kid was Morlish Veed's mother.
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22:16 <Charlemagne19> Then he could be Tarkin's great nephew
22:17 <Trip> And flashes gaing signs at random.
22:17 <AdmiralNick> Well, I am off. See ya all later
22:18 <Trip> Later, Nick.
22:18 <Jello> IT'S A TRAP
22:18 <Jello> ;-)
22:18 <Havac> Seeya, Nick.
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22:19 <Trip> I'm off too.
22:19 <Trip> Latuh.
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22:19 <Dunc> I'm willing to call this chat officially over